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  • TheIronMike
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    #11
    We don't need exuses because Lomachenko **** suckers, like yourself, have already spun the narrative that Loma is too old.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #12
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

      Have you ever done any clinch fighting, jiu jitsu, wrestling, Sambo, etc? Technique matters a lot more than size. That's why you can easily find videos of 100 lb women submitting bodybuilders. The vast majority of boxers don't know anything more than just tying up and MAYBE head position or glove position. There's a ton more that's legal in boxing that can really mess up a fighter who is trying to rely on hugging to protect themselves on the inside.
      Yes I know but this is a BOXING match. Holding is suppose to be illegal in boxing but they let Haney and Tank do it all the time. If Loma does anything beyond what’s normally allowable. They will disqualify him. He’s not going to do that. He’s not met a holder like Haney before in the professionals.

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      • alexnation
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        #13
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

        Hmmm, I hate to burst your bubble but there will be no excuses. Haney will get off from the outside, control the distance and the second Loma jumps in he will HOLD. This will be a very boring fight. Haney wins by holding. You’re going to have the excuses. I’m not watching it.
        That's a fight you are watching 100%. The lack of good fights has been real lately so a fight like this one will definitely be up on your screen come may 20th

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        • alexnation
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          #14
          Originally posted by vaborikua2014
          I'm a huge Loma fan and will be rooting for him, but I'm leaning on Haney getting the W at this point in Lomas career. I know Loma was out for a while with the whole Ukraine situation and rapidly went into a fight with Ortiz his sparring partner and won a close decision ,but he just didn't look like the same Loma who we're used to seeing. It could be father time catching up to him and maybe some rust and Ortiz knowing him so good from being his sparring partner , but if Loma isn't the same Loma from before in this fight he won't be winning. Haney is bigger and more reach and will Jab and hold all night winning a 116-112 type of decision. If Loma legs are fresh and he could turn back the clock a bit then thats a totally different fight.
          That is a fight of his career so I think Loma and his dad will come well prepared and with a good strategy. I see your point and not arguing it but the context is that it is do or die for Loma. Aside from that, Haney is one dimensional and if Loma brings his A game to the ring, age shouldn't be a big deal. His footwork and angles are too good for Haney. Devin has yet to fight someone with superb technical skills

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          • MONGOOSE66
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            #15
            Originally posted by alexnation

            That's a fight you are watching 100%. The lack of good fights has been real lately so a fight like this one will definitely be up on your screen come may 20th
            Yea……….

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            • Tony Trick-Pony
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              #16
              I think Loma will be too much for Haney. Haney hasn't shown the ability to beat Loma yet. As far as excuses, people always come up with something.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                Yes I know but this is a BOXING match. Holding is suppose to be illegal in boxing but they let Haney and Tank do it all the time. If Loma does anything beyond what’s normally allowable. They will disqualify him. He’s not going to do that. He’s not met a holder like Haney before in the professionals.
                There's a wide variety of techniques to clinch work WITHIN boxing that are legal. Holding is illegal under the Marquess of Queensbury rules and I believe in the amateurs, but the unified rules only specifically prohibit holding the head and "aggressive wrestling," etc. Otherwise there's very lenient rules, and referees are given lots of leeway to let fighters fight out of the clinch, etc. Obviously they need to break when told, and there's lots of rules relating to the break, but those wouldn't even exist if tying up was illegal. Why do you think you see it in most fights?

                Mainly the ref will break if there's not sufficient action or it looks like there won't be. Loma is expert at keeping things going inside when it's advantageous for him, eg he's got dominant head/body position, and when it's not, and he wants to create separation, he'll drop his weight down with his arms up and put all the weight on his opponent's biceps, and look like he's actively trying to pull free, which will bring an immediate call for a break. He'll usually turn the clinch so he's got his back to the ref so the ref can clearly see he's trying to pull free. Every fighter Loma has faced in the pro ranks has tried to tie up at some point. Haney's hugging isn't going to be anything different. And I really doubt Haney has seen anything like what Loma does in the clinch.

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                • Offensive Wizardry
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by alexnation
                  So when Loma was the champ, a specific group of seemingly bipolar people were screaming that he was avoiding Teo because he would be carried out on stretchers. The injured Loma took the fight, didn't get battered (yes, he lost on points but still looked better than Lopez). Now these people are foaming that he took the Teo fight to duck Haney.

                  What's on the list of excuses when the one dimensional Haney gets schooled by Loma?
                  he fought teo. now he's fighting haney.

                  what's your problem?

                  has haney fought anybody as good as teo?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry

                    he fought teo. now he's fighting haney.

                    what's your problem?

                    has haney fought anybody as good as teo?
                    ummmm....George Kambosos

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                    • Offensive Wizardry
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheIronMike

                      ummmm....George Kambosos
                      meh.

                      i think if they fought again teo wins. teo is the more talented fighter even though he lost a split decision. i think loma beats kambosos and beats teo in a rematch.

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