Thoughts on Tyson Fury?

[Toffee]

Fury's a showman who can back his ish up, boxing needs more of that mentality.

He can back up his ish. Most of the time he chooses not to. It's frustrating as hell, even if it's a big part of who he is.

Personally I think that boxing needs less of that.

Unfortunately big talk is a big part of becoming great in boxing, providing you don't fall flat on your face. Fury's inactivity reduces the chances of that happening.

I'd prefer a guy who talked less and proved more.

[Get em up]

I think Fury has all the ingredients to be a ATG if only he had the drive to be. His legacy will end up being a big F U C K YOU and what if. Unless he decides to fight and beat Usyk, AJ and Joyce or any other number 1 contender. Then he can say he cleared out his era and would be in a conversation for ATG top 10 heavyweights IMO

[Get em up]

He can back up his ish. Most of the time he chooses not to. It's frustrating as hell, even if it's a big part of who he is.

Personally I think that boxing needs less of that.

Unfortunately big talk is a big part of becoming great in boxing, providing you don't fall flat on your face. Fury's inactivity reduces the chances of that happening.

I'd prefer a guy who talked less and proved more.

I agree with the last sentence of this but Fury is part of a history of trash talkers such as the #1 trash talker in Ali. He just doesnt follow through as well as others did even though I believe he is more than capable

[Toffee]

I think Fury has all the ingredients to be a ATG if only he had the drive to be. His legacy will end up being a big F U C K YOU and what if. Unless he decides to fight and beat Usyk, AJ and Joyce or any other number 1 contender. Then he can say he cleared out his era and would be in a conversation for ATG top 10 heavyweights IMO

He could absolutely be in that conversation. At least I think he could.

He's a weird one. I can deal with someone like Bowe. He could have been great but didn't have the discipline - well that's just part of what made him less than an all time great.

Whereas Fury looks like he could be truly great. He seems disciplined enough (or at least nowadays he does). He just seems to want to prove that he only does things on his terms.

So maybe he'll end up less than great. And with his head and body intact and a load of money in the bank. If that's his aim then fair enough - that's smart. Just don't ask me to agree with his claims of greatness based on who he could have beaten if he wanted to. To be great you need to actually beat them.

[QueensburyRules]

Getting up from that KD in the first Wilder fight was that kind of once-in-a-lifetime sight (if you consider he then put his arms behind his back after getting up).

But all the comedy, all the stuff he's done in the ring... he seems to have really thrown it away. Such a shame.

Right now I'm waiting for him to tell Joshua he's got 30 seconds to sign a contract (or maybe not after Saturday's performance) and then sign up for Derrick Chisora IV.

- - Actually Blubber used his size and strength to smother Deyonce as he drove him into the corner to buy time.

He threw away his legacy with the Wlad travesty where he shoulda been on drug suspension but for the inept monkeys that run the BBBc and UKAD who are in the news giving Amir Khan a 2 year backdated suspension over a failed drug test long after Khan has been retired for 3 yrs before being called out for Brooksy in 2022.

Deyonce was the low hanging, spoiling fruit that fellow low hanging spoilt fruit Blubber needed in his shaky return to the ring now doubly armed with the MOB behind him.

AJ was the Colossus when he ducked their $150mil 50/50 Saudi fight Eddie moved heaven and hell to make. Instead Blubber targeted the low hanging Deyonce trilogy for peanuts. He could walk away from boxing tomorrow and nobody will remember him save the Deyonce trilogy whilst being puffed up on his own petard.........

[Al Faz]

He is a big cowardly dosser, a PED cheat, and a liar.

[Boxing 112]

He can back up his ish. Most of the time he chooses not to. It's frustrating as hell, even if it's a big part of who he is.

Personally I think that boxing needs less of that.

Unfortunately big talk is a big part of becoming great in boxing, providing you don't fall flat on your face. Fury's inactivity reduces the chances of that happening.

I'd prefer a guy who talked less and proved more.

Activity Since 2018

Canelo - 10
Fury - 9
AJ - 8
Usyk - 7
Crawford - 7
Wilder - 7
Spence - 6
Jermall - 6

Activity 2020-2022

Canelo - 6
Fury - 4
AJ - 3
Usyk - 3
Crawford - 3
Wilder - 3
Spence - 2
Jermall - 2

[Toffee]

Activity Since 2018

Canelo - 10
Fury - 9
AJ - 8
Usyk - 7
Crawford - 7
Wilder - 7
Spence - 6
Jermall - 6

Activity 2020-2022

Canelo - 6
Fury - 4
AJ - 3
Usyk - 3
Crawford - 3
Wilder - 3
Spence - 2
Jermall - 2

I should be clear. When I refer to Fury's inactivity I'm talking about fights that mean even a little bit.

Fury's 9 fights included Seferi, Pianeta, Schwarz, Wallin and Chisora.

All fights which, at the time, I think I'm being generous calling 'tune ups'. They were Franklin type opponents (well, maybe not even that in some cases). His fight against that WWE bloke was about as meaningful as any of them.

Since 2018 the only things he's done of any note is fight Wilder and a mandatory.

Don't forget as well... the guy has been the lineal champion (apparently) since 2015 and the above represents his full body of work in the 8 years since that point.

[Boxing 112]

I should be clear. When I refer to Fury's inactivity I'm talking about fights that mean even a little bit.

Fury's 9 fights included Seferi, Pianeta, Schwarz, Wallin and Chisora.

All fights which, at the time, I think I'm being generous calling 'tune ups'. They were Franklin type opponents (well, maybe not even that in some cases). His fight against that WWE bloke was about as meaningful as any of them.

Since 2018 the only things he's done of any note is fight Wilder and a mandatory.

Don't forget as well... the guy has been the lineal champion (apparently) since 2015 and the above represents his full body of work in the 8 years since that point.

He was out for 3 years. He then took 2 fights Seferi and Pianeti as comeback fights, and he had them in 2 months not like he wasted a year on them, 4 months later he got in with Wilder when no one expected him to not even his own team or promoter. He has then fought Wilder 3 times. 3 huge fights and the biggest threat. Everyone then claims he was duckin Whyte, he fought him schooled him and kod him Whyte did nothing. People love bringing rankings up when it suits them so Shwarz was top 10 with ibf, wallin was top 10 in 2 out of the 4 belt organisations rankings. Chisora was a waste of time keep busy fight.

To me i rate Fury now only cause ive been proved wrong. I dont care about pulev and povetkin 40 yr old i dont rate. I just wanted to fury aj wilder to fight. And fury and wildet did 3 times. I actually picked wilder in the first 2 fights.

just want to see Fury fight Usyk. The others not as much, Joyce is slow amd gets hit way too much i would like to see him against aj fury wilder but i think he loses all 3. If fury fights aj people will just say he was shot anyway

I don't care about no fury vs ruiz or aj vs whyte. I want to see fury vs usyk. Aj vs wilder. Usyk vs wilder.

I think fury usyk is still the most likely

[hugh grant]

My thoughts on tyson? Who you fighting next tyson? How about josh? You don't want him to be better under new trainer in a year's time so i d fight josh now, or joyce