Mayweather Says Mosley Missed His Chance, Twice

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  • BoxingScribe
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    #361
    Originally posted by p4p-champ
    One thing to note...Williams doesn't really fight tall. He is more of an inside fighter and Mayweather is great fighting in the pocket...he can fight in the pocket all night.

    If a southpaw nullifies the shoulder-roll...then Pacman should be able to beat Mayweather...no? What happen to Zab, Mitchell, Corely...

    Listen, I know southpaws can give Mayweather a bit more trouble than an orthodox fighter but the guy knows how to adjust and his defense is by far the top one out there...I just don't see P-Will 'exposing' Mayweather....beating on him cards, yes.
    Did you just say what happened to Zab, who lost to Baldomir, Sharmba who was washed up YEARS before he fought Floyd, and Corley who couldn't finish a man out on his feet? I mean dude, if Manny were to daze Floyd, do you believe he wouldnt finish him? Zab was landing easily on Floyd the first 4-5 rounds. Floyd adjusted and we ALL know Zab isn't a distance fighter. Sharmba could have fought Floyd bare fisted and his punches wouldnt have hurt. And Corley......BUM.....who still had Floyd out on his feet.

    And Williams is an inside fighter?

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    • Dave Rado
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      #362
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Is there a HW linear champ?
      That's a matter of opinion. The rule accepted by almost everyone is that under truly exceptional circumstances, a new lineal champion can be crowned on a discretionary basis if the #1 and #3 face off, on the proviso that there are good reasons why a fight cannot be made between the #1 and #2 contenders.

      In the opinion of the vast majority of boxing experts, including The Ring, those criteria were met when Wlad beat Chagaev, but were not met when Mosley beat Margarito. Mosley was considered to have unfinished business with Cotto, and Margarito was considered to have unfinished business with Williams, and because of that, in the opinion of pretty well everyone, it was not considered that the "truly exceptional exceptional circumstances" criteria were met in the case of the Mosley-Margarito fight. Whereas because Wlad cannot be reasonably expected to fight his own brother for money, almost everyone considered that the "truly exceptional exceptional circumstances" criteria were met when Wlad fought Chagaev.

      Hence Wlad is The Ring champion, and in most expert's opinions, he's also the lineal champion, although a minority of people consider that the lineal heavyweight title is still vacant. But you can't really make a case that Cotto-Mosley and/or Margarito/Williams were impossible to make, so there's no case for saying that Mosley is the lineal Welterweight champion, although he is definitely the #1 contender.
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-28-2009, 02:25 PM.

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      • iRealChamp
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        #363
        Originally posted by BoxingScribe
        Did you just say what happened to Zab, who lost to Baldomir, Sharmba who was washed up YEARS before he fought Floyd, and Corley who couldn't finish a man out on his feet? I mean dude, if Manny were to daze Floyd, do you believe he wouldnt finish him? Zab was landing easily on Floyd the first 4-5 rounds. Floyd adjusted and we ALL know Zab isn't a distance fighter. Sharmba could have fought Floyd bare fisted and his punches wouldnt have hurt. And Corley......BUM.....who still had Floyd out on his feet.

        And Williams is an inside fighter?
        Mayweather would make it awkward for williams do throw 100 punches around.. Its like Oscars left hook... we never saw it for a reason... Its hard to just let your hands go hitting air

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        • Dave Rado
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          #364
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          No you saying that Shane is not the linear champion proves you nothing about boxing and the history of boxing.
          No, the title was vacated by Mayweather when he "retired" and the #1 and #2 contenders haven't fought since then. If Mosley and Mayweather face off, there will be a new lineal champion. Until then, the title is vacant.

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          • Dave Rado
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            #365
            Originally posted by arraamis
            Read here Friend - where I explained the system ..... Its the way it works out.

            http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...&postcount=282
            You need to learn about boxing history. That's never been how it has been worked out.

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            • p4p-champ
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              #366
              Originally posted by BoxingScribe
              Did you just say what happened to Zab, who lost to Baldomir, Sharmba who was washed up YEARS before he fought Floyd, and Corley who couldn't finish a man out on his feet? I mean dude, if Manny were to daze Floyd, do you believe he wouldnt finish him? Zab was landing easily on Floyd the first 4-5 rounds. Floyd adjusted and we ALL know Zab isn't a distance fighter. Sharmba could have fought Floyd bare fisted and his punches wouldnt have hurt. And Corley......BUM.....who still had Floyd out on his feet.

              And Williams is an inside fighter?
              Granted those weren't big-name southpaws, they should have still been able to cause more damage then what they did since shoulder roll is nullified. We can't just write-off Floyd's D because he may have took a few shots here and there from south paws. Its rare to hit Floyd, we all know that but the guy is a ring general who adjusts every single fight, not matter if your southpaw, othodox, brawler, boxer, dirty, clean, inside or outside fighter. Pacman is a big-name southpaw with power who has become a legitimate WW no? Mayweather will pick Pacman apart who has the same reach as Cotto and is about half an inch shorter but he is a southpaw. I'd like to see this fight happen now just because Manny is a southpaw.

              As for Williams, for a man as big as he is, he tends to crouch down a lot. He should be doing to fighters what Klitchko did to Areola. Which is fighting long-distance.
              Last edited by p4p-champ; 09-28-2009, 02:32 PM.

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                #367
                Originally posted by TRAVI$
                Floyd will retire if Cotto beats Pac IMO.
                he needs the money so that ain't happening
                he's also rejuvenated and it appears that he wants to fight
                I'm pretty sure floyd will fight either SSM, Cotto, or Pac in 2010

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                  #368
                  Originally posted by jgmustangec12
                  are u ***in serious May?????? his career is on the down???? he's became the lineal champion in ur damn division.... be a man and fight mosley!!!!!
                  correction SSM is NOT the lineal champ at WW
                  he's pretty close tho... the winner of a cotto ssm rematch would decide that

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #369
                    Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity
                    correction SSM is NOT the lineal champ at WW
                    he's pretty close tho... the winner of a cotto ssm rematch would decide that
                    Not any more - it's Mosley vs. Mayweather that would decide that now - see here.

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                      #370
                      Originally posted by iRealChamp
                      Mayweather would make it awkward for williams do throw 100 punches around.. Its like Oscars left hook... we never saw it for a reason... Its hard to just let your hands go hitting air
                      nope, pwill will throw punches just to throw punches.

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