Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz Falls Ill, WBA Title Fight Versus Eimantas Stanionis Postponed Once Again

[kiaba360]

I believe that was his reasoning and he made his bed. I don't think Ortiz's issues are related to whom is training him or him cutting weight as most here believe. The guy is a gym rat,trains 7 days a week and even Robert has said he's the hardest working fighter he's ever trained.

Ortiz doesn't blow up in weight in between fights,the fight was already postponed once and we're still a month out from the fight. A point where most fighters aren't cutting a drastic amount of weight so I believe this is just a case of over exertion over a prolonged training camp.

It sounds like Vergil is someone who's used to burning the candle at both ends. Just because he's young doesn't mean all this stress can't have lasting consequences.

[siablo14]

That chico is shook.

[Malvado]

Franco narrowly defeated Moloney on the scorecards to capture the title. I wouldn't classify someone with one world title bout as "a veteran with the experience of a World Champion". I think I understand Robert's decision to prioritize his newly crowned champion in a rematch over his contender. Did Ortiz Sr. doubt Pita's ability to guide his son to victory? Things ultimately turned out fine as Franco beat Moloney more decisively, and Ortiz stopped Mean Machine.

Was Ortiz showing any signs of physical deterioration at RGB? Or is Ortiz Sr. to blame for what's currently happening with Vergil?

Agree to Disagree, I don't think that Robert would had made a major difference at Franco's corner at that stage of his career considering Joshua's experience having faced Moloney twice already and Oscar Negrete three times. Whereas Vergil was stepping up from facing Hooker to Kavaliauskas.

It's not that Pita isn't a good trainer either, just that at that level it would have been preferable to assisted by the much more experienced trainer.

Robert was a professional boxer himself who held a title at 130 and trained:
-Chris Algieri
-Nonito Donaire
-Fernando Vargas
-Mikey Garcia
-Egidijus Kavaliauskas
-Marcos Maidana
-Abner Mares
-Antonio Margarito
-Kelly Pavlik

Also, he didn't show any deterioration with RGBA, if anything Robert kept him in check, since he was the first to enter the gym and leave.

[TheIronMike]

He should take a year off to find out what tf is going on with his health.

[Malvado]

I believe that was his reasoning and he made his bed. I don't think Ortiz's issues are related to whom is training him or him cutting weight as most here believe. The guy is a gym rat,trains 7 days a week and even Robert has said he's the hardest working fighter he's ever trained.

Ortiz doesn't blow up in weight in between fights,the fight was already postponed once and we're still a month out from the fight. A point where most fighters aren't cutting a drastic amount of weight so I believe this is just a case of over exertion over a prolonged training camp.

Looks like you weren't wrong. He had another long training camp like he did last year.

[hhh1200]

this is like the 3rd time he has been ill. Put this in perspective. he is about the size for jermell charlo and is burning down to 147, must be killing his organs. all advantages out the window if he goes up to 154. it isnt the division he want to get hit a lot. i mean he is tailor made for a guy like fundora.

[Rebelrbg]

This is just sad.....

Any good replacement for this fight in the same division?

Boots and Stanionis would be a good replacement.

[Rebelrbg]

Oh ****,bscenes very own Martha Stewart everyone!!....I"ll pass on the collard greens but I do love me some chitlins!!

Good to know, but that's kinda filling, and I need you to have plenty of room for that crow.

[The Big Dunn]

Could it be that boxers are over-training? Maybe inactivity is causing guys to be in the gym more than they should, or the weight cutting is putting some major stress on their bodies.

That makes sense. All the more reason to fight more regularly. 3-6 times per year.

[TheIronMike]

Ortiz was going to lose that fight and he knew it

100% that was the case.