Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz Falls Ill, WBA Title Fight Versus Eimantas Stanionis Postponed Once Again

[kiaba360]

Almost Every ***********ing fight I was excited to see is getting cancelled or moved.

Why in this era of advanced science, diet and training are so many boxers getting hurt.

I dont recall this many injuries during training ever.

Could it be that boxers are over-training? Maybe inactivity is causing guys to be in the gym more than they should, or the weight cutting is putting some major stress on their bodies.

[kiaba360]

Leaving RGBA might have been a bad idea, Robert tends to keep check on his fighter from overexerting themselves and he had his own nutritionists, something that Ortiz Sr likely is struggling with as now the head trainer.

Still think that Vergil can fight at 147 but he has to make important changes and additions to his camp. He was still a month away from fighting, but if he had cut while having rhabdo then it would have put his life in jeopardy, and he would had likely retired early in his career.

It is rumored that the fight between Stanionis and Ortiz Jr is being re-scheduled for July, though not it's still not a done deal. Stanionis could take a stay busy fight like Mckinson has done or be provided with more money by GBP and Ortiz's team similarly to how it was attempted with Avanesyan.

Why did he leave? They seemed to have a good thing going.

[Sctrojan]

Why did he leave? They seemed to have a good thing going.

Team Ortiz got bent out of shape because Robert decided to work another fighters corner,can't remember who,instead of Ortiz's when he fought Kava. Thought it was a bone head move on Robert's part.

[kiaba360]

Team Ortiz got bent out of shape because Robert decided to work another fighters corner,can't remember who,instead of Ortiz's when he fought Kava. Thought it was a bone head move on Robert's part.

Maybe Robert felt like the other fighter needed him in the corner more? IDK, but it seems like Ortiz's career is beginning to suffer.

[rckdees]

Ortiz was going to lose that fight and he knew it

[Malvado]

Why did he leave? They seemed to have a good thing going.

What Sctrojan said, Robert at the time decided to corner Joshua Franco in his championship against Andrew Moloney fight when Ortiz Jr needed assistance with the biggest step up of his career in Mean Machine, instead his son Pita went in his stead.

Honestly, I think that Robert didn't do the right choice considering Franco was a Veteran with the experience of a World Champion, but it is also Ortiz's team fault from switching to completely different camps at the get go.

Last year Vergil had an intense training camp for 6 months to face Avanesyan/Mckinson in March before contracting Rhabdo which is normally caused by people physically overstraining themselves and not getting the sufficient nutrition intake.

Wouldn't be surprised that it happened again since it was done deal in December that he was going to fight Eimantas in March, until Stan had an appendectomy and the fight had to be rescheduled in April 29, making it from a 4 month camp onto a 5 month camp.

[Pigeons]

So much shenanigans with this fight. Why can't we watch two young phenoms test themselves? Boxing is such a weird sport.

[Boxing 112]

Boots should step in and fight Stanionis. But won't happeb.

[Sctrojan]

Maybe Robert felt like the other fighter needed him in the corner more? IDK, but it seems like Ortiz's career is beginning to suffer.

I believe that was his reasoning and he made his bed. I don't think Ortiz's issues are related to whom is training him or him cutting weight as most here believe. The guy is a gym rat,trains 7 days a week and even Robert has said he's the hardest working fighter he's ever trained.

Ortiz doesn't blow up in weight in between fights,the fight was already postponed once and we're still a month out from the fight. A point where most fighters aren't cutting a drastic amount of weight so I believe this is just a case of over exertion over a prolonged training camp.

[kiaba360]

What Sctrojan said, Robert at the time decided to corner Joshua Franco in his championship against Andrew Moloney fight when Ortiz Jr needed assistance with the biggest step up of his career in Mean Machine, instead his son Pita went in his stead.

Honestly, I think that Robert didn't do the right choice considering Franco was a Veteran with the experience of a World Champion, but it is also Ortiz's team fault from switching to completely different camps at the get go.

Last year Vergil had an intense training camp for 6 months to face Avanesyan/Mckinson in March before contracting Rhabdo which is normally caused by people physically overstraining themselves and not getting the sufficient nutrition intake.

Wouldn't be surprised that it happened again since it was done deal in December that he was going to fight Eimantas in March, until Stan had an appendectomy and the fight had to be rescheduled in April 29, making it from a 4 month camp onto a 5 month camp.

Franco narrowly defeated Moloney on the scorecards to capture the title. I wouldn't classify someone with one world title bout as "a veteran with the experience of a World Champion". I think I understand Robert's decision to prioritize his newly crowned champion in a rematch over his contender. Did Ortiz Sr. doubt Pita's ability to guide his son to victory? Things ultimately turned out fine as Franco beat Moloney more decisively, and Ortiz stopped Mean Machine.

Was Ortiz showing any signs of physical deterioration at RGB? Or is Ortiz Sr. to blame for what's currently happening with Vergil?