Canelo fans are really gonna go with the "Canelo is better because he stopped Plant" thing?

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  • BodyBagz
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    #51
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

    The winner of Benavidez vs Plant is the mandatory challenger for Canelo's WBC SMW belt, and we all know who that is. I don't know of any contingency stating that Benavidez had to beat Plant "better" than Alvarez did.
    Going into the fight, it was practically the entire marketing strategy.
    If the winner is the mando, then Nelo will have to deal with it.
    Which I'm sure he will.

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    • SunDiego-
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Madison
      that fight last night showed the level of these guys that canelo was beating at 168... and i dont mean that in a good way. plant, saunders, smith they are all the same, any good fighter makes easy work of them, cause thats what canelo is, a good fighter, not some legendary ATG that his fans like to make out

      They might not be the highest level caliber fighters but they sure are levels above Golovkins entire resume except for Jacob’s who I consider the same level as the fighters you mentioned. You Golovkin fans like to scream the loudest when it comes to who Alvarez fights yet turn a blind eye when your fighter decided to never step up to build an ATG resume himself and sold his career for an Alvarez payday

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      • _Rexy_
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        #53
        Originally posted by RetroSpeed05

        If Inoue retires right now name one fighter besides an old Nonito(who was already was beat multiple of times) whos a hofer or atg in his prime? Beating the best in weak divisions doesn't mean anything. His legacy would have been hof, atg worthy if he didn't skip 115.

        How did he skip 115 when he was a champ at 115?

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        • MulaKO
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          #54
          Benavidez is really not deserving of a shot at Canelo but boxing politics etc etc make him the mando
          That and only that is the reason why he might , big might to boot , he’ll get the fight and only for that reason
          At this time , yes Benavidez has a chance at victory but only because Canelo has been on the decline
          Imo Canelo still squeaks out a win just because David first off starts very slow , takes him time to adapt and doesn’t have that one punch knockout
          A big possibility is Canelo gasses out also but will David really jump on him or does he plod for 3/4 rounds

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            #55
            Originally posted by MulaKO
            Benavidez is really not deserving of a shot at Canelo but boxing politics etc etc make him the mando
            That and only that is the reason why he might , big might to boot , he’ll get the fight and only for that reason
            At this time , yes Benavidez has a chance at victory but only because Canelo has been on the decline
            Imo Canelo still squeaks out a win just because David first off starts very slow , takes him time to adapt and doesn’t have that one punch knockout
            A big possibility is Canelo gasses out also but will David really jump on him or does he plod for 3/4 rounds
            Nelo has to figure out what his best weight is from here on out.
            I hate him at 175
            Meh at 168
            MW is the sweet spot but no one is there.
            Maybe the yappers at SMW will move up

            Nelo vs Benny at 168....
            Benny will be the tallest guy Nelo has fought (?)
            Nelo will definitely hit him harder (especially to the body) and more often the Plant did.
            And I'm sure he'd be with his S/C coach to work out his gas problems.
            Make the 1st few rds pick ems and then turn on the heat ?

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            • Sctrojan
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              #56
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              Benavidez is really not deserving of a shot at Canelo but boxing politics etc etc make him the mando
              That and only that is the reason why he might , big might to boot , he’ll get the fight and only for that reason
              At this time , yes Benavidez has a chance at victory but only because Canelo has been on the decline
              Imo Canelo still squeaks out a win just because David first off starts very slow , takes him time to adapt and doesn’t have that one punch knockout
              A big possibility is Canelo gasses out also but will David really jump on him or does he plod for 3/4 rounds
              David beat the consensus #2 fighter,3rd at worst,boxer at 168lbs. Andrade,Morrell and Jermall are far less deserving so who does that leave ahead of David?

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                #57
                Originally posted by BodyBagz
                Wasn't that supposed to be the entire Nelo hater/Benny fan narrative ?

                ''Ooooo, looky here. Benny crushed Plant BETTER THAN NELO DID ''....end narrative.
                Isnt that what happened though? Its not a fooken OPINION. People are ******.

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                • Roadblock
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MulaKO
                  Benavidez is really not deserving of a shot at Canelo but boxing politics etc etc make him the mando
                  That and only that is the reason why he might , big might to boot , he’ll get the fight and only for that reason
                  At this time , yes Benavidez has a chance at victory but only because Canelo has been on the decline
                  Imo Canelo still squeaks out a win just because David first off starts very slow , takes him time to adapt and doesn’t have that one punch knockout
                  A big possibility is Canelo gasses out also but will David really jump on him or does he plod for 3/4 rounds
                  Just on beating Plant right now makes him above Ryder who Canelo is fighting next, let alone the rest of his resume and the hype surrounding Canelo vs David.

                  Its a very big fight, my money is on Canelo I think his short stature, fast hands, power, great chin and very effective body punching can get it done in a shootout.

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                  • Oracle01
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 786
                    I wouldn't say "he's better because he stopped him" but Canelo is seemingly a more powerful puncher and better finisher in the fact that he was able to stop plant in less amount of punches landed and was also able to finish the job once he had him hurt whereas Benavidez had Plant hurt for 5 rounds and couldn't get him out of there.

                    Also, the quality of Canelo punches landed seem better, he seemed to land the cleaner more accurate blows whereas a lot of Benavidez' punches were grazing shots or partially blocked, he didn't have much clean work for someone who landed 300 punches as the stats say.

                    All this doesn't necessarily mean that Canelo beats Benavidez, David has a better engine, throws more, is a bigger, longer and potentially physically stronger guy that'll keep coming. I think someone like Bivol outboxes him quite comfortably but how Canelo does against Benavidez I'm not sure, I'd love to see that fight.
                    Benavidez beat up Plant more despite not stopping him and Plant never clinched Canelo for dear life like he did Benavidez, which again shows whos the real monster. He feared standing infront of Benavidez yet spent a lot of the fight vs Canelo in the pocket.

                    Not many are mentioning that this was the best version of Plant we had seen. He was physically in his best condition, clearly sitting down on his punches more than vs Canelo, yet Benavidez still beat him up.

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                    • elfag
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                      #60
                      yeah losing the first 5 rounds and then landing at will the last 7 but still being unable to drop Plant was a better performance than Canelo's stoppage.


                      lmao at the mental gymnastics of bumavidez stans. whatever it takes to believe he performed well last weekend

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