Is there any justification for Tyson Fury?

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Since Fury has become Champion, it has been extremely difficult for his nearest competition to fight him.

    And it will most likely continue to be difficult. Fury for me does not like being a Champion 'He does not like the requirements or how he is on everyone's radar'.

    I think Fury has always preferred being a underdog, and off the radar 'The Prince of thieves'.

    The fight being made right now, I think is too unprofessional 'A fight of such magnitude should be maximized from all angles'.

    Fury is not afraid of Usyk, but for whatever reason he is not entirely enthusiastic for the fight.

    Fury's games and opportunistic tactics increase vs the fighters he is most threatened by etc.

    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-24-2023, 03:10 AM.

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    • -Kev-
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      #12
      Originally posted by Sctrojan
      No... but to most here who saw past his persona and bravado,could see his hesitations in fighting Joshua and now Usyk so it shouldn't come as that big a surprise,unfortunate as that may be smh.
      I think Fury is ducking Usyk, but that’s as far as I go. There was zero hesitation in Fury fighting Joshua.

      1. Wilder blocked the fight with a lawsuit.
      2. Joshua lost to Usyk twice.
      3. There is little to no point in fighting Joshua coming off back to back losses.

      So Wilder and Usyk both stopped Fury vs AJ.

      There was literally nothing Fury can do about any of that.

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      • Toffee
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        #13
        Originally posted by -Kev-

        I think Fury is ducking Usyk, but that’s as far as I go. There was zero hesitation in Fury fighting Joshua.

        1. Wilder blocked the fight with a lawsuit.
        2. Joshua lost to Usyk twice.
        3. There is little to no point in fighting Joshua coming off back to back losses.

        So Wilder and Usyk both stopped Fury vs AJ.

        There was literally nothing Fury can do about any of that.
        And who stopped him living up to his contractual commitments in the 20 months before he fought Wilder?

        Do me a favour and go through his fight history from 2015.

        I don't understand how anyone can think he was lying this time but was telling the truth all of the others!

        He kept delaying Klitschko and eventually quit.
        He walked away from an ordered rematch v Wilder to fight Tom Schwarz (Hearn claims AJ offered 60/40 at this point, by the way. Fury countered with 50/50!).
        He had to be ordered by a judge to fight Wilder.
        He petitioned the WBC to price out Whyte.
        He priced himself out of the Usyk fight.
        And through all of them he called out every big name and said he didn't care who he fought.

        Yet you think he was up front when it came to fighting Joshua?

        The man fights as infrequently as possible, for as much money as possible, with as little risk as possible, and while calling out every name possible. He's always done it. This week's events aren't new. Not even slightly. It's the same Fury that he's always been.
        Last edited by Toffee; 03-24-2023, 03:29 AM.

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        • BodyBagz
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          #14
          Fury talks a lot.
          Now he has to do it with his clown feet in his mouth.

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          • -Kev-
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            #15
            Originally posted by Toffee

            And who stopped him living up to his contractual commitments in the 20 months before he fought Wilder?

            Do me a favour and go through his fight history from 2015.

            I don't understand how anyone can think he was lying this time but was telling the truth all of the others!

            He kept delaying Klitschko and eventually quit.
            He walked away from an ordered rematch v Wilder to fight Tom Schwarz (Hearn claims AJ offered 60/40 at this point, by the way. Fury countered with 50/50!).
            He had to be ordered by a judge to fight Wilder.
            He petitioned the WBC to price out Whyte.
            He priced himself out of the Usyk fight.
            And through all of them he called out every big name and said he didn't care who he fought.

            Yet you think he was up front when it came to fighting Joshua?

            The man fights as infrequently as possible, for as much money as possible, with as little risk as possible, and while calling out every name possible. He's always done it. This week's events aren't new. Not even slightly. It's the same Fury that he's always been.
            I like Fury but i’m not that big of a fan to actually sit here and debate all that in his name. I’m not his attorney or promoter, or wife.

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              #16
              Originally posted by -Kev-

              I think Fury is ducking Usyk, but that’s as far as I go. There was zero hesitation in Fury fighting Joshua.

              1. Wilder blocked the fight with a lawsuit.
              2. Joshua lost to Usyk twice.
              3. There is little to no point in fighting Joshua coming off back to back losses.

              So Wilder and Usyk both stopped Fury vs AJ.

              There was literally nothing Fury can do about any of that.
              - - Now, Kevvy, there you go again.

              Eddie spent over a month putting together a Saudi $150 mil 50/50 package for the AJ fight that Blubber say he wanted.

              Time to sign the contract, he shat his shorts for peanuts vs Deyonce whom he already KOed.

              Settled history son. Now Blubber has publicly shat himself yet again, but now many of his fans are turning on him. Hope AJ and Usyk who gave us great fights never attempt another ill deserved payday for him now. Usyk makes more fighting Hrgovic in Saudi Arabia, and truth be told looks to be smart enough to get out of such a dirty sport sooner rather than later as does AJ.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #17
                Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony
                Usyk is one scary dude! I mean, Fury jumped right in with the hardest puncher in the division three times but he shies away from Usyk? Something has got him very feel.
                - - The Feel looks like he might like Blubbered liver...

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                • Kzbox
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                  Let's see, his team put in the rematch clause to begin, and if he gets the 50/50 split, Usyk will get 30 first fight and 50 second fight. But if he accepts the 70/30 to the winner second fight, he would get 70 in both fights if he wins, and Usyk would be agreeing to the short end of the split in both fights.

                  He's saying, "you're only worth 30 now, when you're an undefeated three belt world champion, but after I beat you, you'll somehow be worth 50."

                  Usyk would get 30 in both fights if he loses fight 1 based on split Usyk is requesting, and Fury would get 70 in both fights.

                  Usyk only gets a better split if Usyk wins the first fight.

                  You tell me, why doesn't Fury want to take 70 in both fights, if he's so confident in beating the "middleweight"?
                  Cuz nobody agrees to that and u wouldn't expect anybody else to take that risk either literally betting millions when anything can happen in a fight is dumb. Usyk knows full well he isn't worth 70% in the rematch even if he wins i would say 50 - 60% is more fair as he would be undisputed but still Fury is the main draw that's just how it is.
                  Last edited by Kzbox; 03-24-2023, 04:53 AM.

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                  • crimsonfalcon07
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kzbox

                    Cuz nobody agrees to that and u wouldn't expect anybody else to take that risk either literally betting millions when anything can happen in a fight is dumb. Usyk knows full well he isn't worth 70% in the rematch even if he wins i would say 50 - 60% is more fair as he would be undisputed but still Fury is the main draw that's just how it is.
                    This is horse****. If Fury wins, he'd get more money with a 70 to the winner split. There's no more that really needs being said. If it was about money, 70 to the winner is more money in Fury's pocket.

                    If you think Usyk is only worth 30 as an undefeated unified champion, who's also undisputed cruiserweight champion, why on earth would he be worth 50 after he loses to Fury? Fury is literally begging to give Usyk more money in the rematch... Unless Fury thinks he's going to lose.

                    Also, nobody agrees to that? Usyk did. He's never ducked anyone, unlike Fury, who has never fought a single unification, and only fights mandatories when he's legally forced to.

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                    • Kzbox
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                      This is horse****. If Fury wins, he'd get more money with a 70 to the winner split. There's no more that really needs being said. If it was about money, 70 to the winner is more money in Fury's pocket.

                      If you think Usyk is only worth 30 as an undefeated unified champion, who's also undisputed cruiserweight champion, why on earth would he be worth 50 after he loses to Fury? Fury is literally begging to give Usyk more money in the rematch... Unless Fury thinks he's going to lose.

                      Also, nobody agrees to that? Usyk did. He's never ducked anyone, unlike Fury, who has never fought a single unification, and only fights mandatories when he's legally forced to.
                      Usyk does that because he isn’t the A side simple as fighters have value on the market and for him to be 30 - 70 against Fury is silly as i say 50/50 seems fair for the rematch if Usyk wins. Market value/percentage is not based on achievements or belts as much as we don’t like the fact Fury is bringing in most the money so it makes no sense for him to take 30% thats a gamble against what he would be owed.

                      I will be called an ass kisser now but i dont even care its facts Usyk asking for 70% in the rematch if he wins was dumb.

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