Comments Thread For: Fury's Promoter: There is No Reason For Usyk Negotiations To Be Called Off!

[juggernaut666]

"You know why they want the rematch clause? Because it’s two paydays. Where are they gonna earn the type of money they can earn fighting Tyson twice? They aren’t gonna get that type of money to fight Filip Hrgovic, Joe Joyce or Daniel Dubois."

And yet they are now looking to Dubois without fighting Fury once and previously accepted a slanted 70/30 split to try and make the fight happen.

From where I sit, it's obvious that team Fury that has been throwing up the obstacles and it's been team Usyk that has been clambering over them to try and make the fight. And now there's been one obstacle too many.

The problem here is DDD and Joyce are U.K rivalry domestic fights . Fury will make more fighting them ,then a Usyk would and he’d hog the negotiations there as well ..lol

This why Fury doesn’t actually care if this fight happens, both those other fights are easier ( depending which Joyce shows up ) but regardless he views Usyk as a legit threat so he’s put a 70/30 bluff that got us here before sabotaging the Saudi deal .

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Fury is not scared of Usyk. He is way bigger, just as good a boxer and Usyk couldn't hurt Anchinny Joshua. He ain't hurting Fury, who took Wilder's rights and won all three fights.

I love Usyk. Been a favorite fighter of mine for years. Usyk knows he likely loses against Fury. He may believe he can win, but the realist part of him knows that Fury is too big and too good, and a fight against him is a nightmare.

Fury knows this and he also knows that Usyk will make millions more fighting him at 70/30 than he will fighting Dubois or anyone else. Usyk stands to make a huge payday against Fury. But Usyk has kind of painted himself into a corner. He hasn't got long left in his career, and he is now facing guys far larger than him. He put on masterful performances against AJ. AJ has never been the same since Ruiz stopped him. He fights scared now. And he most likely will never be the same.

Usyk certainly knows this about AJ. And he knows Fury is coming to cave his head in. And Dubois could seriously hurt him, as well as a few of the other top 10 HW's. Usyk is really undersized and his skill level was too much for ruined AJ. But these other guys aren't going to fight tentative, they are going use their weight and power to try and smash Usyk.

Usyk makes at least three or four times fighting Fury at 70/30 than he does anyone else. If they want a rematch clause and are wrangling over that.....it just appears to me that Usyk isn't all that confident about fighting Fury, and that he knows his options after the AJ fights aren't great.

That's all well and good but fact is the last southpaw who fury fought (wallin) he nearly lost against him. Usyk is better than wallin in most categories. Fury is stalling. Running scared.

[_Rexy_]

I get that perspective. There is the fact that Fury is in camp with Sugarhill. That would tell me that this rematch clause issue is something Usyk's side came up with after Fury was in camp, meaning in Fury's mind, the deal was as good as done.

if you remember, Fury proposed a fight last year and Usyk said he needed rest and a break. Usyk isn't stupid, he knows Fury is by far the hardest fight he has ever taken. He may be delaying it and seeing if Fury will retire, allowing Usyk to fight an easier fight to unify.

Fury offered 70/30 because he could. Usyk accepted it and apparently Fury agreed to give a million to Ukraine. Fury went into camp two weeks ago, he apparently thought it was done. Now Usyk suddenly stops the fight because of a rematch clause issue?

I think the Usyk Joshua fights really oversold people on Usyk at HW. Usyk is no fool though.

He's not in camp with Sugarhill. Sugarhill is in the UK for Okollie's fight this weekend.


That's why Fury's photos with Sugar that he uploaded were all from an older camp.

[PBR Streetgang]

Time to dust off Del Boy for Fury Chisora IV.

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Man of the people, fighting man, will fight for free, donating the purse to charity....

[hugh grant]

Come on, usy k agreed to 30%, why contact still not signed? Is usy k wanting rematch clause and fury dont? What on earth can be holding it up?

[Theshotyoudontsee]

That's all well and good but fact is the last southpaw who fury fought (wallin) he nearly lost against him. Usyk is better than wallin in most categories. Fury is stalling. Running scared.

Fury agreed to 50/50 rematch clause and also no rematch.

Wallin is 6'6 and a big guy. Fury apparently didn't take him too seriously.

Also, Usyk looked mediocre vs Chisora. Chisora isn't all that great.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

That's all well and good but fact is the last southpaw who fury fought (wallin) he nearly lost against him. Usyk is better than wallin in most categories. Fury is stalling. Running scared.

According to Sugarhill he was planning on being there. And Fury said a week or so ago he was blacking out media for training camp.

It appears that the fight was done and then Usyk wanted the rematch clause at 70/30 for him..then Fury said 50/50, and also said no rematch clause is fine. So apparently he isn't too worried about losing to Usyk.

People really believe that Fury is scared of guy that he outweighs by 50 pounds, has half of foot of height on and seven inches in reach?

Lol. Ok. Joshua is mentally damaged since Ruiz. Usyk fought smart and I love Usyk. But Fury will almost certainly steamroll Usyk. The Joshua fights got Fury haters fooled.

[juggernaut666]

Fury agreed to 50/50 rematch clause and also no rematch.

Wallin is 6'6 and a big guy. Fury apparently didn't take him too seriously.

Also, Usyk looked mediocre vs Chisora. Chisora isn't all that great.

Fury didn’t agree to a 50/50 rematch clause he wanted it as part of the deal . And why would Usyk agree to that if he wins if he’s only getting 70/30 now ?

In fact most everthing you said would indicate he is tentative about giving anything here a legit offer in a contract . The only reason why we even made it to this point is Usyk accepted Furys bluff . If Chisora isn’t that great then why did Fury fight him when he had Usyk as option in February instead of fighting Chisora in December ? See when you actually think about these things you get the real picture.

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