Egis Klimas is preventing Fury v Usyk

[BoxingParadigm]

The only thing that Fury won't agree to is giving Zelenski a million quid.

That's a ridiculous stipulation.

But I thought that had been accepted verbally via Twitter? I wish Tyson would've been clear earlier that he was not accepting Usyk's ultimatum.

[deathofaclown]

But I thought that had been accepted verbally via Twitter? I wish Tyson would've been clear earlier that he was not accepting Usyk's ultimatum.

That part was never accepted and why should it?

you donate to what you choose to and what you believe in, not because of some guilt trip or ultimatum making you donate to a corrupt country

They need to keep it strictly boxing

[Kris Silver]

Why didn't he say what the demands were?

Just understand that Egis does not want the fight in the UK because he knows what they could make if they get it back on track for Saudi. He moves the goalposts more than anyone and people are too focused on Fury negotiating a split that they can't see Egis Klimas is actually preventing it

I just said within the post. He's not going further and publicising this latest list of demands, because to do so would be un-professional and leave business relations in tatters, scuppering future relations.

He'll publicise it one day. And he said if Warren wants to open up about the list, that's another thing. Warren admitted on Talk Sport there is more demands, but didn't go into them.

You just saying a person, Egis, doesn't want the fight because of X, doesn't just make it so. That's purely your opinion. You can't, and don't...know.

Usyk is tired of Fury's constant demands, changes, contradictions, manipulating, moving the goal posts.

Fury has form for doing this.

Usyk and his team, do not.

[Kris Silver]

The only clown is you for believing that obvious troll thread. Kris Silver is nothing more than a ******ed ******* mong.

Where did I say I believed, that thread?

I didn't, you mong. Comprehende Englais ??

You're a joke poster on these boards.

[miniq]

You know what's worse than someone who gets an inch but takes a mile?

Someone who pretends to be the good guys when really they are just as guilty

Funny because that's exactly sums up the Ukraine war also LOL! Back to the front lines for little Usyk. Needs to sort his team out especially when he is 1 punch away from getting chinned at HW. His aura of unbeatable will fall very soon. Dubious will have more success than both AJ & Chisora...mark my words and will rock Usyk. AJ is total bum & Chisora is a plodder.

[BoxingParadigm]

My support is not clouding anything

I said Fury was being difficult in the negotiations and if things fell apart earlier, i would blame him depending on why. I thought a 70-30 split was harsh on Usyk but I also understand why Fury would try and get that. He sells 95,000 tickets as A-side and Usyk would barely sell a quarter of that without Fury or AJ in the other corner. Belts don't sell tickets. Haney has 4 and wouldn't sell 15,000.

So even though 70-30 sounds a bit harsh, it's not flat out unreasonable when you look what they both can draw. Obviously Usyk felt its OK because he knows it's still more than he makes elsewhere. So they agreed on it. Don't get things twisted, usyk is about making money too, otherwise the sticking point wouldn't be a double payday with the rematch. Had Fury had backed out as they agreed the split, I'd blame him..

So Fury says let's abolish the rematch. Usyk says no. Fury then says OK and the rematch split can be what Usyk v AJ rematch was...usyk says no.

So who is stopping the fight exactly?

All Fury is guilty of is negotiating a bigger split. Big deal, all fighters try to. Its called negotiating. I'd also want a bigger split if I was filling stadiums as the A side.

Fury has never once tried to call the fight off like the other side are doing

Your mind is clouded, not mine.

Your mind is either clouded or you've already decided Tyson is right no matter what. The fact you justify Tyson negotiating for his benefit but you don't afford Usyk the same consideration is enough for anyone to see your bias. The ultimatum was 70-30 split in Tyson's favor because everything else had been agreed upon, the fact Tyson is demanding anything at this point shows he was not serious before in the negotiations and with his ultimatum. Usyk caught him and now he's trying to renegotiate stuff with a little more than a month from the actual fight date.

I don't deny Usyk also wants money, that's expected. And I genuinely don't care who wins this fight, however, I really care about having an undisputed heavyweight champion.

Tyson can be annoying & ridiculous sometimes, but he's entertaining. Him and Usyk are pretty even in my mind in terms of preference so I have no reason to have a clouded mind one way or another. In fact, I think Tyson beats Usyk, I just think at this point he's either being greedy, is not confident of being in shape for the fight date or is desperately trying to modify details of the contract because he wasn't serious about negotiations earlier.

I could be wrong and that's fine, but right now it just looks like team Fury holds most of the blame for the fight not happening, and at this point he has created a bit of a history of being difficult to deal with, particularly when it comes to becoming undisputed.

[4truth]

That part was never accepted and why should it?

you donate to what you choose to and what you believe in, not because of some guilt trip or ultimatum making you donate to a corrupt country

They need to keep it strictly boxing

Prize fighting isn't strictly boxing to begin with. It's boxing but it is also compensation. Usyk obviously considers money for Ukraine compensation.

If I had not seen Fury's fight with the southpaw Wallin, I might find the "Usyk has no chance" narrative a little more believable. Despite the ridiculous scorecards, the Wallin fight was fairly close, Wallin landed that left hand over and over again. Obviously, Fury is the favorite here but it's just silly talk to suggest Usyk has no chance or that Usyk's camp doesn't really want the fight.

[removed]

Where did I say I believed, that thread?

I didn't, you mong. Comprehende Englais ??

You're a joke poster on these boards.

Of course you believed it you gullible spastic

[BoxingParadigm]

That part was never accepted and why should it?

you donate to what you choose to and what you believe in, not because of some guilt trip or ultimatum making you donate to a corrupt country

They need to keep it strictly boxing

The twitt gave the impression Usyk's terms/counter had been accepted. There should have never been any hope of the fight going through if this wasn't the case. Usyk was clear he accepted 70-30 under those conditions only and that with every day there was a delay a percentage of that split would go his favor.

Tyson should have been more clear, I think it would have saved us all weeks of false hope that this fight would happen.

[juggernaut666]

is that **** for real?!?! I wonder if Usyk is being pulled to appease Wlad and the regime who already gave him crap for not supporting the war and corruption.

Totally ****ed up. lol. But I am still sure Fury is the one being difficult overall.

Who’s Fury appeasing to demanding 70/30 ?