Egis Klimas is preventing Fury v Usyk

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  • Kris Silver
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    #11
    deathofaclown on BoxingScene says that's definitely the case (with no actual evidence).

    So it must be the case.

    He even labelled his insights as 'facts'.

    Case closed.

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      #12
      Originally posted by deathofaclown

      Apart from offering Joe Joyce 7%? That wasn't being difficult?

      Don't forget Usyk was also refusing to sign the AJ contract at first and making videos saying "more money eddie" regarding rematch clauses.
      I knew the Joe Joyce 7% was coming, seems to be the only thing you can legitimately say. Now, I'll admit I don't know enough about what happened there, but didn't someone mention that was a stalling attempt to make the fight that was really needed (not sure if it was the AJ fight)? Besdies, Usyk vs Joyce has never been a high demand fight like this one. Anytime a legitimately big fight needs to be made Usyk concedes a lot of ground to make the fight happen.

      Now with respect to the reference to Eddie Hearns, isn't that what you're saying all fighters do and is part of the game? Negotiating for what the fighter wants? That's not the same as being difficult and even Eddie Hearn has been on record saying Usyk is not difficult to deal with.

      There, I replied to your little attempts at dismissing my points. Now be intellectually honest and reply properly to the questions I asked in my original post. I know I've come after Fury a bit during these public negotiations, but I don't have a dog in the fight, I think Fury is a special fighter and want to see more of him. Why he doesn't want to fight Usyk is a bit perplexing to me, but greed is one hell of a drug and trying to milk your money making abilities against lower risk opposition is very tempting and probably what has Fury hesitant to face Usyk.

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      • Kris Silver
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        #13
        TS is also the one whom literally a day ago said they had sources that the fight was ON and confirmed.

        Clown, indeed.

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          #14
          Just keep ****riding. You're doing great.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Lupara
            Fury fanatics should be studied. Like seriously. It’s like some kind of weird phenomena. Despite all the facts and evidence out there, they can just not see it. They’ll double down on Fury’s side and twist it just like the giant ogre himself. Incredible actually.
            Well i'm a Fury fan not fanatic but tbf "all the facts out there" is pure speculation and what's being told to us nobody knows what's the true story but the people negotiating obv Usyks manager was asked what these "extra things" are but he never said them so how do we know if it's so outrageous? i want all the actual facts to be clear personally i stil say the 70 - 30 is bs but that's just business.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Kris Silver
              TS is also the one whom literally a day ago said they had sources that the fight was ON and confirmed.

              Clown, indeed.
              That was Denium, not me

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              • deathofaclown
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                #17
                Originally posted by James Hunt
                Just keep ****riding. You're doing great.
                Learned it from your mother

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BoxingParadigm

                  I knew the Joe Joyce 7% was coming, seems to be the only thing you can legitimately say. Now, I'll admit I don't know enough about what happened there, but didn't someone mention that was a stalling attempt to make the fight that was really needed (not sure if it was the AJ fight)? Besdies, Usyk vs Joyce has never been a high demand fight like this one. Anytime a legitimately big fight needs to be made Usyk concedes a lot of ground to make the fight happen.

                  Now with respect to the reference to Eddie Hearns, isn't that what you're saying all fighters do and is part of the game? Negotiating for what the fighter wants? That's not the same as being difficult and even Eddie Hearn has been on record saying Usyk is not difficult to deal with.

                  There, I replied to your little attempts at dismissing my points. Now be intellectually honest and reply properly to the questions I asked in my original post. I know I've come after Fury a bit during these public negotiations, but I don't have a dog in the fight, I think Fury is a special fighter and want to see more of him. Why he doesn't want to fight Usyk is a bit perplexing to me, but greed is one hell of a drug and trying to milk your money making abilities against lower risk opposition is very tempting and probably what has Fury hesitant to face Usyk.
                  Look at the facts

                  Fury said lets do it without a rematch, Usyk's team said no.

                  So Fury offers them a rematch clause, they confirmed the split for the rematch will be the same as he got for the AJ rematch, Usyk's team said no...

                  Yet Fury is preventing it? He tried to cut out the rematch to prevent these problems but again, Egis wanted it because he can yet again use it as another road block
                  Last edited by deathofaclown; 03-22-2023, 09:07 AM.

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                  • Kris Silver
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown

                    Look at the facts

                    Fury said lets do it without a rematch, Usyk's team said no.

                    So Fury offers them a rematch clause, they confirmed the split for the rematch will be the same as he got for the AJ rematch, Usyk's team said no...

                    Yet Fury is preventing it? He tried to cut out the rematch to prevent these problems but again, Egis wanted it because he can yet again use it as another road block
                    Fury put the rematch in their originally.

                    It is he that threw the swerve ball out of nowhere and went back on that.

                    He's thrown a long list of public, and an even longer list of non public demands out which he keeps switching and changing up.

                    You do that so the other side declines and you can blame them.

                    Usyk called his bluff and even agreed to 70-30.

                    Fury was wriggling out of it whichever final thing it fell on for it to fail. Usyk's promoter says there's a new long list of unreasonable demands.

                    To publicise them now would be unprofessional and scupper future relations.

                    But he'll reveal them all one day. Fury's list grows and changes by the day. He's nutty.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kris Silver

                      Fury put the rematch in their originally.

                      It is he that threw the swerve ball out of nowhere and went back on that.

                      He's thrown a long list of public, and an even longer list of non public demands out which he keeps switching and changing up.

                      You do that so the other side declines and you can blame them.

                      Usyk called his bluff and even agreed to 70-30.

                      Fury was wriggling out of it whichever final thing it fell on for it to fail. Usyk's promoter says there's a new long list of unreasonable demands.

                      To publicise them now would be unprofessional and scupper future relations.

                      But he'll reveal them all one day. Fury's list grows and changes by the day. He's nutty.
                      Why didn't he say what the demands were?

                      Just understand that Egis does not want the fight in the UK because he knows what they could make if they get it back on track for Saudi. He moves the goalposts more than anyone and people are too focused on Fury negotiating a split that they can't see Egis Klimas is actually preventing it

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