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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    My theory is that Frank Warren is trying to get 2 fights out of Usyk, just like Oscar is trying to do with Crawford!
    No not just two fights he's trying to sodomise usyk in the rematch purse if usyk even wins the first fight and stick to 70/30 in furys favour

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    • Yaconcha
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      #32
      I’ve said before and I will say it again, look at the diddycoys record, he has one name on there of note and two if you count the farce with the big klitchko.
      evryone else is at best a domestic ability opponent. Why keep saying he’s this or that? Why ffs!!!
      it’s not a matter of disliking the fellah but his record just doesn’t show any greatness at all. Cmon!! Joshua maybe a plodder or limited but his record shows far better opponents and there are far more of them!!! Look at any hw champ over the last 50 years and they’ve all had a better record at this point.
      does anyone remember Larry Holmes? Mike Tyson? George foreman? And on and on and on….they faced everyone in eras where there were other top flight opponents. What does this idiot do? Avoid a cruiserweight. What a bell end, no fackin excuse not to face what is regarded as the number 2 man, why not face him? Why not? Why not face Joshua? Why not? Where’s the glory in wobbling around the ring with a nobody? What’s great about that?
      it’s shocking that people buy into the idea this fellah is something special. He’s not and certainly not yet.
      there are people with better boxing ability than deontay wilder and derek chisora ffs, fight one and then another and see if he can keep it goin just like they always did.
      until then, make no demands and just accept the challenges.

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        #33
        Originally posted by MulaKO

        Will you gamble on it anyway ?
        That’s the question at hand lol
        They didn't let me do it for Tyson vs RJJ...

        On the other hand, I'll be most certainly dead in 10 years if things in my life keep going as they are

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        • Stuntman Mike
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          #34
          Originally posted by Yacontya
          I’ve said before and I will say it again, look at the diddycoys record, he has one name on there of note and two if you count the farce with the big klitchko.
          evryone else is at best a domestic ability opponent. Why keep saying he’s this or that? Why ffs!!!
          it’s not a matter of disliking the fellah but his record just doesn’t show any greatness at all. Cmon!! Joshua maybe a plodder or limited but his record shows far better opponents and there are far more of them!!! Look at any hw champ over the last 50 years and they’ve all had a better record at this point.
          does anyone remember Larry Holmes? Mike Tyson? George foreman? And on and on and on….they faced everyone in eras where there were other top flight opponents. What does this idiot do? Avoid a cruiserweight. What a bell end, no fackin excuse not to face what is regarded as the number 2 man, why not face him? Why not? Why not face Joshua? Why not? Where’s the glory in wobbling around the ring with a nobody? What’s great about that?
          it’s shocking that people buy into the idea this fellah is something special. He’s not and certainly not yet.
          there are people with better boxing ability than deontay wilder and derek chisora ffs, fight one and then another and see if he can keep it goin just like they always did.
          until then, make no demands and just accept the challenges.
          It's the tiktok know it all casual generation of boxing

          Said it before wladimir was finished the fight prior to Fury he looked terrible against bryant jennings the fight prior and couldnt even hurt him

          Then he saw a great opportunity with wilder and social media gave wilder this mystical aura of the biggest hitter ever when in fact if tyson or foreman faced wilders resume they'd have polaxed every one of them in much more devastating fashion whereas wilder makes a meal out of arreola and bermaine stiverne

          Foreman and tyson would get them both out of there inside a minute and a half

          Fury has built up a made believe greatness and whenever he thinks he's getting tested he retires

          He ran from the wladimir rematch which he could have possibly lost then he ducked the Joshua fight which I think he would have potentially lost

          He's fought nobody who can counter punch or box really just guys that were luckily enough tailor made for him


          If he fought david haye all that time ago he would have been dominated
          Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 03-22-2023, 01:14 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

            No not just two fights he's trying to sodomise usyk in the rematch purse if usyk even wins the first fight and stick to 70/30 in furys favour
            That's going too far! I admit, Fury is the Cash Cow, but you can't castrate a P4P Top 5, and 3-Belt Champion, especially when he's the Champion of Urkaine, at a time of war!

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              #36
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              That's going too far! I admit, Fury is the Cash Cow, but you can't castrate a P4P Top 5, and 3-Belt Champion, especially when he's the Champion of Urkaine, at a time of war!
              Warren says he'll not get this kind of money from other fights as in the 30 split in the rematch so he should agree basically but the same should go for fury not getting as much attention fighting whoever else over usyk so his argument is trash unless it's Joshua but we know fury isn't going to want to fight Joshua

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                #37
                Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                Warren says he'll not get this kind of money from other fights as in the 30 split in the rematch so he should agree basically but the same should go for fury not getting as much attention fighting whoever else over usyk so his argument is trash unless it's Joshua but we know fury isn't going to want to fight Joshua
                Fury vs. Ruiz in Las Vegas would surpass anything Usyk can do with his mandatories! Now if Usyk could bypass a mando and fight Wilder, that would be HUGE!!!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake

                  Usyk got 50% with AJ , who is much more popular then ****ehead, who they f is fury with his one belt to price himself out like that? Thats a duck!
                  Usyk got 50% in the REMATCH, not the first fight. Usyk got LESS THAN 30% IN THE FIRST FIGHT vs Joshua, thanks for making my argument for me.

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                  • chicken-
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                    It's the tiktok know it all casual generation of boxing

                    Said it before wladimir was finished the fight prior to Fury he looked terrible against bryant jennings the fight prior and couldnt even hurt him

                    Then he saw a great opportunity with wilder and social media gave wilder this mystical aura of the biggest hitter ever when in fact if tyson or foreman faced wilders resume they'd have polaxed every one of them in much more devastating fashion whereas wilder makes a meal out of arreola and bermaine stiverne

                    Foreman and tyson would get them both out of there inside a minute and a half

                    Fury has built up a made believe greatness and whenever he thinks he's getting tested he retires

                    He ran from the wladimir rematch which he could have possibly lost then he ducked the Joshua fight which I think he would have potentially lost

                    He's fought nobody who can counter punch or box really just guys that were luckily enough tailor made for him


                    If he fought david haye all that time ago he would have been dominated
                    Tyson is overrated and struggled vs B level opponents for the entire second half of his career, while getting completely outclassed by A level opponents. Foreman is also overrated, he couldn't even KO Briggs with asthma, who was battered around by Lennox Lewis with ease.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MulaKO
                      Just read something with SugarHill stating that he is worried of the short amount of time being given to him to prepare Fury for the fight
                      Sounds like nobody really wants this fight to go on
                      When you're talking Saudi money but suddenly have to settle for Wembley, nobody wants it any longer. Usyk was more willing to accept because his alternate options are even worse. He won't make nearly as much fighting Dubois or Hrgovic. His best bet is still Wilder and getting rid of 1 or 2 belts.

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