Comments Thread For: Fury's Coach: Tyson Capable of Being Ready By April 29, The Gameplan is a Knockout!

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • JakeTheBoxer
    undisputed champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Dec 2014
    • 21132
    • 4,620
    • 2,797
    • 123,960

    #41
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Fury vs. Ruiz in Las Vegas would surpass anything Usyk can do with his mandatories! Now if Usyk could bypass a mando and fight Wilder, that would be HUGE!!!
    Man you are living in fantasy world. Nobody cares about Fury fighting Ruiz because Ruiz has like zero chance here.

    Comment

    • JakeTheBoxer
      undisputed champion
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Dec 2014
      • 21132
      • 4,620
      • 2,797
      • 123,960

      #42
      Originally posted by Zelda

      When you're talking Saudi money but suddenly have to settle for Wembley, nobody wants it any longer. Usyk was more willing to accept because his alternate options are even worse. He won't make nearly as much fighting Dubois or Hrgovic. His best bet is still Wilder and getting rid of 1 or 2 belts.
      If Usyk beats Dubois and Hrgovic, his value will even raise.

      Is Wilder even an option. Should Usyk drop all the belts to fight him. And is Usyk -Wilder with no belt on the line even a big fight?

      Comment

      • Smash
        Undisputed Champion
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Nov 2008
        • 15464
        • 6,354
        • 7,774
        • 21,172

        #43
        beer n burgers or fight at wembley for 70% of the pot, greedybelly chose the first option

        Comment

        • MulaKO
          Zero F@cks Given
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Oct 2007
          • 26806
          • 6,741
          • 6,056
          • 221,421

          #44
          Originally posted by Zelda

          When you're talking Saudi money but suddenly have to settle for Wembley, nobody wants it any longer. Usyk was more willing to accept because his alternate options are even worse. He won't make nearly as much fighting Dubois or Hrgovic. His best bet is still Wilder and getting rid of 1 or 2 belts.
          Money talks , bullchit walks
          Right ?

          Comment

          • Bronx2245
            Undisputed Champion
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • May 2013
            • 28521
            • 5,424
            • 1,420
            • 162,064

            #45
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

            Man you are living in fantasy world. Nobody cares about Fury fighting Ruiz because Ruiz has like zero chance here.
            That's what they said before he put Joshua asleep!

            Comment

            • chicken-
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Oct 2005
              • 1251
              • 521
              • 27
              • 17,232

              #46
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              That's what they said before he put Joshua asleep!
              And since then we've learned that Ruiz is in fact a fat slob who got dropped by Areola and struggled vs Ruiz. AJ has been exposed as a gatekeeper to the elites, after easily outboxing Ruiz in the rematch.

              Comment

              • Zelda
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • May 2019
                • 2077
                • 395
                • 73
                • 19,172

                #47
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                If Usyk beats Dubois and Hrgovic, his value will even raise.

                Is Wilder even an option. Should Usyk drop all the belts to fight him. And is Usyk -Wilder with no belt on the line even a big fight?
                Why all the belts? why not just one?

                Firstly, just look at the guy's age. If he fights Dubois and Hrgovic and Joyce just to "raise his value", when on earth will he fight to earn the money? Aged 40? Guys like Usyk (much like RJJ, Haye, etc. ) depend on speed and stamina which is the first to go as you age. Power is the last to go. Usyk doesn't have a lot left at HW due to his style.

                Secondly, how much value can Usyk raise? It is a fact that people support and come to see "their man". The two powerhouses currently are the US and the UK. They will support Chisora as a "Brit" instead of Usyk because they have no sentimental attachment to his win or loss. Only the hardcore fans would pay to watch good boxing. So, he ain't generating as much value as Fury or AJ unless something dramatic happens and he becomes Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali.

                If indeed possible, he should skip Dubois and/or Hrgovic and fight Wilder for a lot more money. The Hrgovic fight will be the least money-making because at least Dubois is a Brit. Only Usyk vs Joyce can make decent money. After that maybe fight Fury or rematch AJ and he's done at HW in 1-2 years.

                Comment

                • Marchegiano
                  Banned
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Dec 2022
                  • 1775
                  • 1,034
                  • 1,507
                  • 0

                  #48
                  Picking which promoter's excuse is acceptable probably has something to do with why the best fights don't get made. I might agree more with Usyk, but fact is his promoter failed to bring us undisputed as much as Fury's. Failed.

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  TOP