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  • #41
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    Fury vs. Ruiz in Las Vegas would surpass anything Usyk can do with his mandatories! Now if Usyk could bypass a mando and fight Wilder, that would be HUGE!!!
    Man you are living in fantasy world. Nobody cares about Fury fighting Ruiz because Ruiz has like zero chance here.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Zelda View Post

      When you're talking Saudi money but suddenly have to settle for Wembley, nobody wants it any longer. Usyk was more willing to accept because his alternate options are even worse. He won't make nearly as much fighting Dubois or Hrgovic. His best bet is still Wilder and getting rid of 1 or 2 belts.
      If Usyk beats Dubois and Hrgovic, his value will even raise.

      Is Wilder even an option. Should Usyk drop all the belts to fight him. And is Usyk -Wilder with no belt on the line even a big fight?

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      • #43
        beer n burgers or fight at wembley for 70% of the pot, greedybelly chose the first option

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Zelda View Post

          When you're talking Saudi money but suddenly have to settle for Wembley, nobody wants it any longer. Usyk was more willing to accept because his alternate options are even worse. He won't make nearly as much fighting Dubois or Hrgovic. His best bet is still Wilder and getting rid of 1 or 2 belts.
          Money talks , bullchit walks
          Right ?

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          • #45
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

            Man you are living in fantasy world. Nobody cares about Fury fighting Ruiz because Ruiz has like zero chance here.
            That's what they said before he put Joshua asleep!

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              That's what they said before he put Joshua asleep!
              And since then we've learned that Ruiz is in fact a fat slob who got dropped by Areola and struggled vs Ruiz. AJ has been exposed as a gatekeeper to the elites, after easily outboxing Ruiz in the rematch.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                If Usyk beats Dubois and Hrgovic, his value will even raise.

                Is Wilder even an option. Should Usyk drop all the belts to fight him. And is Usyk -Wilder with no belt on the line even a big fight?
                Why all the belts? why not just one?

                Firstly, just look at the guy's age. If he fights Dubois and Hrgovic and Joyce just to "raise his value", when on earth will he fight to earn the money? Aged 40? Guys like Usyk (much like RJJ, Haye, etc. ) depend on speed and stamina which is the first to go as you age. Power is the last to go. Usyk doesn't have a lot left at HW due to his style.

                Secondly, how much value can Usyk raise? It is a fact that people support and come to see "their man". The two powerhouses currently are the US and the UK. They will support Chisora as a "Brit" instead of Usyk because they have no sentimental attachment to his win or loss. Only the hardcore fans would pay to watch good boxing. So, he ain't generating as much value as Fury or AJ unless something dramatic happens and he becomes Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali.

                If indeed possible, he should skip Dubois and/or Hrgovic and fight Wilder for a lot more money. The Hrgovic fight will be the least money-making because at least Dubois is a Brit. Only Usyk vs Joyce can make decent money. After that maybe fight Fury or rematch AJ and he's done at HW in 1-2 years.

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                • #48
                  Picking which promoter's excuse is acceptable probably has something to do with why the best fights don't get made. I might agree more with Usyk, but fact is his promoter failed to bring us undisputed as much as Fury's. Failed.

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