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  • Casualfanboy
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    #21
    White would design boxing like an anteater would design an ant farm.
    Last edited by Casualfanboy; 03-21-2023, 01:40 PM.

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    • Boxfan83
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      #22
      It's hard to make it in boxing. Seems like the promoters that already have a stronghold don't give an inch. Jay Z is a billionaire and seen that losing venture and got out. If anything White will end up having current or Former UFC fighters box. I guess it may intrigue some former Champ boxers.

      Business wise for Dana I can see this as a way to keep his fighters from going to other MMA orgs or Bare Knuckle.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Bob
        Hmmm, I'm a boxing fan since the 80s, I don't get the negative comments? Why? Because in the ufc the best fight the best? Because they consistently beat boxing for ppvs? Because someone might put money into boxing?
        Dana has already looked into boxing & ran a mile in its current state.

        For me I'd like Dana, Eddie, Al & Bob to say F the belts, create i dunno the UBC with they're fighter's under 1 umbrella 1 belt 1 name 1 face 1 title & less poxy divisions at the lower weights where you can eat a Sunday roast & go up 2 weight divisions.

        The UFC creates more middle class rich fighter's than boxing, that's a fact, it's just the top end where fighter's don't earn Saudi blood money that boxer's earn today.

        I'm sick of alphabelts I'm the A-side duck boxing. If your not your not a fan of the sport.
        Sorry but, even Dana dropped the 'best fighting the best' shtik long ago and switched to '..puts butts in seats'. Good marketing dude but, wrong forum. We know the truth, ask Cowboy Cerrone and many others. Retired 1980's wwf/wwe level dispare.

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        • bullydean
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          #24
          Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

          this is ripe
          It isn't ripe because boxers aren't forced into terrible contracts like the UFC. Most boxers go in for a quick payday and come back out with zero obligations. They are free to fight or not fight and they will be paid their share that they agreed to if they do enter the ring.

          So yes you should go learn what exploitation is.
          Last edited by bullydean; 03-22-2023, 05:09 PM.

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          • Kannabis Kid
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            #25
            Originally posted by Bob
            Hmmm, I'm a boxing fan since the 80s, I don't get the negative comments? Why? Because in the ufc the best fight the best? Because they consistently beat boxing for ppvs? Because someone might put money into boxing?
            Dana has already looked into boxing & ran a mile in its current state.

            For me I'd like Dana, Eddie, Al & Bob to say F the belts, create i dunno the UBC with they're fighter's under 1 umbrella 1 belt 1 name 1 face 1 title & less poxy divisions at the lower weights where you can eat a Sunday roast & go up 2 weight divisions.

            The UFC creates more middle class rich fighter's than boxing, that's a fact, it's just the top end where fighter's don't earn Saudi blood money that boxer's earn today.

            I'm sick of alphabelts I'm the A-side duck boxing. If your not your not a fan of the sport.
            Lol in the UFC they recycle the same fighters over and over again. Let's take a look at the fight that just happened for example. Leon Edwards lost to Usman and landed a good head kick to win in the rematch to become a champion. Usman got an immediate rematch after getting slept and lost again. Now they are lining up either Covington (lost twice already for the belt against Usman) or Masvidal (lost to both Covington and Usman twice by domination in both fights and has been on a losing streak). How is that the best fighting the best? Belal "Forget my Name" Muhammad should be getting the title shot but it's politics.

            When the heavyweight champion of the UFC is making less money than Gallo Estrada and Chocolatito then you know somethings not right. There's a reason he left just like Darren Till did recently and Paulo Costa looks like he's on his way out as well.

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            • Boxingfanatic75
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              #26
              Originally posted by bullydean

              It isn't ripe because boxers aren't forced into terrible contracts like the UFC. Most boxers go in for a quick payday and come back out with zero obligations. They are free to fight or not fight and they will be paid their share that they agreed to if they do enter the ring.

              So yes you ahould go learn what exploitation is.
              No, actually you should “go learn” what exploitation is. The most simplistic form of Google searches of boxing and exploitation will result in dozens of articles (both opinion and scholarly). Most boxers live in poverty and are “exploited.” UFC fighters fight under contract and those with the UFC fight under “guaranteed” monies. A great deal of UFC fighters with many losses are multimillionaires. In boxing you either win or live poor. Trust me, I’m very comfortable with the term du jour “exploitation” in its many forms.

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              • The D3vil
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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

                Really? Name me one boxer that has multiple losses that isn’t Chisora that is a millionaire or wealthy? If you aren’t a headliner boxer you’re paid s h I t! The only guys going after the big fights in boxing are already many times over millionaires. Exploitation….Bwhahahahha! Boxers are some of the most exploited individuals in all of professional sports.
                Dude, Pacquiao had 7 losses and was worth 200 million dollars.

                Fxcking Robert Guerrero made so much money, he named his son after Al Haymon because that's who made him rich

                Andy Ruiz is a millionaire and morbidly obese.

                Hell, a lot of PBC guys are wealthy because of Haymon.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The D3vil

                  Dude, Pacquiao had 7 losses and was worth 200 million dollars.

                  Fxcking Robert Guerrero made so much money, he named his son after Al Haymon because that's who made him rich

                  Andy Ruiz is a millionaire and morbidly obese.

                  Hell, a lot of PBC guys are wealthy because of Haymon.
                  Lol Guerrero? Loved him but he didn’t make squat in his multiple loss 20 year pro boxer at 5 million net worth? Take otoh Randy Couture. In one year in the UFC alone 2.7 million and he was an 11 loss fighter winning and losing multiple championships over a 24 year career.

                  Ruiz hit a one fight jackpot and that’s an anomaly. Had it not been for Big Baby he’d still be an unknown fighting for scraps and end his career with nothing. You’re citing a person whose equivalent would be like a person hitting the lottery. PAC Man is an ATG. We are speaking purely your run of the mill fighters. Your run of the mill, multiple loss fighters are dirt poor. Unless you are big time you aren’t making squat.

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                  • The D3vil
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

                    Lol Guerrero? Loved him but he didn’t make squat in his multiple loss 20 year pro boxer at 5 million net worth? Take otoh Randy Couture. In one year in the UFC alone 2.7 million and he was an 11 loss fighter winning and losing multiple championships over a 24 year career.

                    Ruiz hit a one fight jackpot and that’s an anomaly. Had it not been for Big Baby he’d still be an unknown fighting for scraps and end his career with nothing. You’re citing a person whose equivalent would be like a person hitting the lottery. PAC Man is an ATG. We are speaking purely your run of the mill fighters. Your run of the mill, multiple loss fighters are dirt poor. Unless you are big time you aren’t making squat.
                    You said name ONE fighter with multiple losses that are millionaires and. I named THREE

                    Any fighter who fought Mayweather or Pacquaio or Anthony Joshua or Canelo in the past decade or so is a millionaire or close to it. That's a considerable amount.

                    PBC fighters fight once or twice a year because they're paid so well.

                    And Randy Couture is a name brand fighter in UFC. I don't even watch UFC or MMA at all and I know who he is. He should be rich.

                    There's a reason MMA fighters are trying to come into boxing and when both worlds mix, they do boxing.

                    Because boxers actually make money.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

                      No, actually you should “go learn” what exploitation is. The most simplistic form of Google searches of boxing and exploitation will result in dozens of articles (both opinion and scholarly). Most boxers live in poverty and are “exploited.” UFC fighters fight under contract and those with the UFC fight under “guaranteed” monies. A great deal of UFC fighters with many losses are multimillionaires. In boxing you either win or live poor. Trust me, I’m very comfortable with the term du jour “exploitation” in its many forms.
                      Poverty=/=exploitation

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