Question///???? Does anyone know y emmanuel stewart wasnt in vitalys corner last night???
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Vitali Klitschko Dominates Chris Arreola, TKO in Ten
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostThe Buster Douglas from February 11, 2001 would have beaten down EVERY active heavyweight today; including both Klitschkos. If you don't believe that, you haven't seen that fight. Buster's career wasn't special, of course, but he was a very skilled fighter (unlike Vitali) who gave an incredible performance on the night he KO'd Tyson. Tyson didn't get KO'd by some lucky punch as some people who have never seen the fight seem to believe. He got taken apart by a skilled heavyweight on a mission. Go back and watch.
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Originally posted by UncleSam View Postanother mexican down lol
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostI was talking about the 80's version of Tyson. Not the version that got KO'd by Lennox. Please read what I write. And, for Lennox. What can I say Lewis won fair and square. He landed a punch and a nasty cut happened. And, again that was an old out of shape Lewis againt a prime Vitaly. And, Vitaly still loss. You can cut it anyway you want it. But, the fact is he lossed. And, I don't think Lennox is an ATG either. I will he is borderline. But, for my vote no. I think The Klitschko's are the most dominate HW's of this era. I think when they retire we will appreciate them more. Just like we do Lennox. But, by no means ATG.
By the way Frazier only won one fight against Ali. And, not only is Ali great but he was the greatest HW of all time. I also rank Frazier above Vitaly. I think Joe KO's him.
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Originally posted by AnthrAxNSB View PostHe is how he is - a meaningless statement really. And, I cannot believe you just compared Ali and Mayweather to Vitali. Un-****ing-believable.
Mayweather's defensive prowess is second to none. Vitali's defense is leaning back because almost nobody has the reach to touch him, or run if they get too close. Mayweather can avoid punches while in the pocket. Mayweather can slip punches. Vitali does not. Vitali leans back - a no-no in boxing under normal circumstances. The fact is, Vitali is too tall, with too long of a reach for almost any HW to touch him with anything significant. I look to the Lewis fight not to make a case for Vitali's greatness, but to make a case for Vitali's weaknesses. Vitali's resume outside of the Lewis fight is case enough for his dominance of this decade's HWs. The Lewis fight showed that a skilled fighter with similar size could hit Vitali with ease. Yes Vitali was up on the cards (slightly), but we were only half way through the fight, Vitali up four rounds to two, with Lewis winning the last two while hurting Vitali. Again, that didn't cement Vitali as an ATG, but rather as a solid, tall HW that capitalizes on his physical advantages over average size HWs. He may have won that Lewis fight, but Lewis had the momentum, and ultimately, the fight was legitimately stopped. Lewis won. Vitali didn't.
We're not talking height here. Vitaliy is how he is.
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Originally posted by DigitalBeast View PostFrasier pushed Ali in all their fights, and KO'd him once.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostBro you knocking Frazier for being KO' by Foreman? Foreman is ATG bro. IMO the 2 best HW era's were #1 the 70's and #2 the 90's. Foreman won the linear championship in both of the 2 best era's. That how good Foreman was. Vitaly is not better than Foreman. I am sorry I still can't say how Vitaly is ATG.
I have question. In this Klitschko era. This decade name me the best HW not named Klitschko? And, I won't count Lewis cuz he did not figh long enough in this decade. So just answer that question the best HW not named Klitschko?
The best non-Klitschko HW of this decade might be the James Toney that beat Evander. If he was taller, he'd be an even bigger force. Maybe not too clear, but that's a guess off the top of my head. Roy Jones might have been it as well. And I don't really see why Lennox can't be counted. The version that fought since the turning of the century was still very good.
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Originally posted by NachoMan View PostThe Buster Douglas from February 11, 2001 would have beaten down EVERY active heavyweight today; including both Klitschkos. If you don't believe that, you haven't seen that fight. Buster's career wasn't special, of course, but he was a very skilled fighter (unlike Vitali) who gave an incredible performance on the night he KO'd Tyson. Tyson didn't get KO'd by some lucky punch as some people who have never seen the fight seem to believe. He got taken apart by a skilled heavyweight on a mission. Go back and watch.
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