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  • Originally posted by pugay_kamay View Post
    Vitaly did not lost to Lewis, he was robbed! Vitaly is the same reason Lewis turned down the 20mil rematch offer and proceed to retirement instead.

    Lewis fought a shot Tyson and i think one of the fights with Holyfield was robbed also. I don't consider Lewis one of HW ATG.
    I do not consider Lewis ATG either. So I will agree there.

    Now explain to me how Vitaly was robbed in the Lewis fight? I am confused with that comment. Did Lewis landed a punch? And, did that punce caused a nasty cut to open?

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    • can't compare vitali's power to foreman's. even so, i think after the sixth kd, frazier got back on his feet when the fight was stopped. including the wars with ali, frazier's resolve would keep him in the fight. doubt either fighter would be stopped so any argument would have to be based on outboxing.

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      • Originally posted by worldbestmcotto View Post
        coulda,shoulda,woulda... Viatli's best win,if u want to call it that,is a loss to lennox lewis.the only hof fighter he has ever faced and u calling him an atg..there aint no way he's top 10 of all time..besides lennox,he lost to i think chris byrd back in 2000 ,and quit..i dont care if he had a so called injury or not..so u can stick to wahtever u want..he aint beating no cassius clay..c'mon man be serious..
        I just watched the Lewis fight. They both looked bad. Lewis was old/out of shape(so I hear) and Klitschko looked unprepared, but in shape. Fighting with a messed up shoulder shouldn't be a requirement, you silly rager.

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        • Originally posted by PittyPat View Post
          Yeah. Hugely ****.

          Wlad would've pizza-faced Fattyola in 7, and looked like a proper boxer in doing so.
          The guy is 38, and huge. Huge guys can look a bit off. I'd want to see you say he's **** to his face(from a stool, of course). Respect.
          Last edited by DigitalBeast; 09-27-2009, 01:26 PM.

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          • Originally posted by RingTech01 View Post
            can't compare vitali's power to foreman's. even so, i think after the sixth kd, frazier got back on his feet when the fight was stopped. including the wars with ali, frazier's resolve would keep him in the fight. doubt either fighter would be stopped so any argument would have to be based on outboxing.
            Frazier also got up from the first 5 then. He was getting beat up. Plain and simple. Point?

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            • Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
              Was Vitaly not a late replacement? Was Vitaly not the same age as Lennox was yesterday? In their fight, Vitaly could have continued, so he was prevented from winning. Possibly, yes, but still prevented. That fight could be called unfinished.

              Did Lennox not fight Bowe and Holyfield?

              You can think that Tyson would have broken his jaw, but I can think otherwise. I saw the young Tyson in action, so no need to describe him. He was an animal, sure, but Vitaly simply towers over him. I believe there are pictures of them together. Look it up. I stick to what I said.
              Was Vitaly suppose to fight that night on the undercard of Lewis? Was Vitaly not in shape? Even tho he was suppose to fight anyways on that night? He could of conitinued? Did you see how but that cut was? If he would of continued he probably would lossed that eye. If he would of continued he probably wouldn't be on top right now.

              Lennox did not fight Bowe as a pro. And, yes Lewis fought an old Holyfield. What is your point? IMO Lewis is not ATG either. He might be borderling but I wouldn't give him that title.

              Ain't no need to look a pics. I know how tall they are. Tyson would take his body apart. Take the body, the head follows.

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              • Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
                Huge guys can look a bit off.
                Wlad is huge and never looks off. That guy is just a pure boxer, with style and finesse aplenty. Too bad it's never rubbed off on bigger bro.

                Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
                I'd want to see you say he's **** to his face(from a stool, of course). Respect.
                We're all here to discuss this ****, man. Everyone has fighters they dislike and support, so what's the point in saying what you just said? It doesn't make any sense, in this context.

                Weak use of the bottle icon, too. :wanker:

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                • Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
                  Look up a pic of Tyson next to Vitaliy. Tyson wouldn't KO him. Frasier pushed Ali in all their fights, and KO'd him once. See how Frasier fared against a Vitaliy-like boxer in Foreman. Vitaliy is taller, and a better boxer. Don't really have a problem placing Vitaliy up there. And, he WAS ahead vs Lewis. Vitaliy was a late sub. The cut was a lucky thing for Lennox. They're close, but that fight could have been won by Vitaliy, had the cut not happen. Heck, the guy was still willing to go on. He could still crack against a gassed Lewis. Not a true win for Lewis.
                  Again I don't need to look at no pic. I know how tall they are. Frazier never KO'd Ali. Foreman is an ATG not Vitaly. Vitaly was in shape for Lewis. Vitaly was training to fight that night. And, during this time Vitaly was sparring with Wlad. So he had the tall sparring partner. While Lewis was getting ready for somebody totally different. And, Lewis won. You want to say had the cut not happed. is a bunch of nonsense. Is like Lewis saying If the McCall or Rahman punch did not land. I mean it happened he losed. How anybody can say not a true win for Lewis. IMO does not understand boxing.

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                  • Originally posted by DigitalBeast View Post
                    Learn to understand. Was I really knocking Frasier for losing to Foreman? It was how it was. Vitaliy is taller and a better boxer than Foreman. Don't tell me Frasier would win against Vitaliy. Simply too small. Yet he still gave Ali a KO loss, and pushed him in their other two fights, if you remember.

                    The best non-Klitschko HW of this decade might be the James Toney that beat Evander. If he was taller, he'd be an even bigger force. Maybe not too clear, but that's a guess off the top of my head. Roy Jones might have been it as well. And I don't really see why Lennox can't be counted. The version that fought since the turning of the century was still very good.
                    You don't remember that Frazier never KO'd Ali. You looking too much at height and not what they are capable of. Frazier head movement would of Vitaly problems. I have no doubt that Frazier would gotten inside. Joe left hook was something serious. Vitaly has never faced no power like that.

                    I don't count Lennox cuz he just didn't fight enough. He fought till 2003 and only had 1 fight that in 2003 and also 1 fight in 2002. If you want to count him fine. Lewis beat Vitaly.

                    Now you picked James Toney. Really Toney? I mean his record at HW is 6wins 2losses 1draw with 2KO's and 2NC. His best win is against a very old Holyfield. He has been the best HW of this era? OK whatever. Anyways I go with your pick. Toney is the best HW and Vitaly never faced him. How can somebody be called an ATG HW and not fight the best HW of his era? Toney is 41, What the hell has Vitaly been waiting for?

                    I have never known of HW to be know as ATG. And, not beat or fight the best of his era, Cuz that is what Toney is right? The best HW of this era right? And, I recall Toney has been calling out both Klitschko bros. Why Vitaly fought him? Is the ATG Vitaly ducking the best HW of this era? Hmmmm.

                    I give you another fighter who I think will be the main #1 champ right now. Ike Ibeabuchi. I will admit I don't know how he would do against Vitaly or Wlad. But, I don't know they would do with him.

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                    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      Was Vitaly suppose to fight that night on the undercard of Lewis? Was Vitaly not in shape? Even tho he was suppose to fight anyways on that night? He could of conitinued? Did you see how but that cut was? If he would of continued he probably would lossed that eye. If he would of continued he probably wouldn't be on top right now.

                      Lennox did not fight Bowe as a pro. And, yes Lewis fought an old Holyfield. What is your point? IMO Lewis is not ATG either. He might be borderling but I wouldn't give him that title.

                      Ain't no need to look a pics. I know how tall they are. Tyson would take his body apart. Take the body, the head follows.
                      If Vitali was prepared for a fight, then he kinda looked bad to me. I think he could have looked better, moving around more and making the seemingly sluggish Lewis work harder. But yes, he could have continued. If you pick your upper eye lid up up, your eye won't pop out. But yeah, it was getting pretty bad, and it was a normal decision by the corner. Still, he could have continued...

                      Lewis and Holyfield are pretty much the same age. Holyfield is still looking pretty good. He danced around Valuev pretty well.

                      Do look at a picture of Tyson a Vitali. And then see the error of your foolish words.

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