Vitali Klitschko Dominates Chris Arreola, TKO in Ten

[catalinul]

lol at the ******s who said Rid**** Bowe could hang with Vitali

Bowe was OUTCLASSED AND DESTROYED TWICE by Andrew ****ing Golota.

Prime 4 Prime....Vitali destroys the overrated Bowe

Bowe wasn't in his prime when he fought Golota.

In his prime he at least would have given Vitali a fight.

[Dave Rado]

Bowe wasn't in his prime when he fought Golota.

In his prime he at least would have given Vitali a fight.

Like Tyson, only even more so, Bowe's prime (defined in terms of peak fighting years, not in terms of age) was extremely short. It really only lasted a year or two, around the time of the first Holyfield fight. I agree he'd have given Vitali a great fight at that time. He didn't like facing very tall fighters though, hence his refusal to fight Lewis. Difficult to pick a winner.

[AnthrAxNSB]

I think a skilled HW, with average (HW) punching power and good hand speed, and that is at least 6'4" and with the same reach as Vitali would UD him with relative ease.

Bolded in blue: You failed miserably and I stopped reading there. Literally.
I guess you have ignored half of his career wins somehow.

I can almost disregard your prickly criticism out of hand, as I know from memory you are wholly mistaken. But, to drive home the point, I did the research.

Vitali has only fought NINE opponents who are 6'4" or taller. The combined record of this bunch is 247-103-2. And, if your remove Lennox, to whom he lost, the combined record of the eight pugilists he defeated is 206-101-1. These numbers should tell you enough about the skill of the taller fighters Vitali has fought. But, let's dig deeper, and more to my point.

Of the nine fighters who are 6'4" and taller, only THREE had an equivalent reach. One of these three is Lennox Lewis. The combined record of the two not named Lewis is 77-24-1. Those two fighters are Timo Hoffman and Jose Ribalta. Hoffman and Ribalta hardly qualify as skilled boxers with good hand speed.

So, of the three boxers that Vitali has fought that are 6'4" or taller with an equivalent or better reach, only Lennox Lewis meets the other conditions (skilled, good hand speed, average HW punching power). And Lewis defeated Vitali. Case closed.

[AnthrAxNSB]

Like you said, Vitaly(uhuh) was a late sub. Like you said, Lennox was more gassed and behind on the scorecards. Unfinished fight, which Vitaliy(happy?) was winning up to the point of stoppage. What if they both had been properly prepared? That remains a mystery. But I'd agree that it would likely always be a very close fight if they were both ok and properly prepared.

I am from Ukraine as well, so no need to tell me how to spell it. His name is Ukrainian, so there is no REAL proper way of spelling it. Vitaliy may be closest, however. Maybe Vitalij...

As for spelling, you may want to first use the correct words, never mind the actual spelling of them - "Your spelling and grammar gripes OR obtrusive and unnecessary." See the problem there?

I think Vitali is a top 25 HW with respect to matchups. I am not a hater - just a boxer who sees Vitali's defensive holes.

I think, again, that you should lay off of people for spelling or grammar errors when there is no confusion about meaning. I pointed out your spelling errors only to make the point that everyone makes mistakes, but so long as the meaning is clear, who gives a ****. Again, it is obtrusive and annoying.

Incidentally, replacing "are" with "or" is a typo, not poor word choice or a spelling error. You are familiar enough with a keyboard to know that it lends itself to that sort of thing. For example:

Unfinished fight, which Vitaliy(happy?) was winning up to the point of stoppage.

This sentence isn't grammatical. Should I chide you for this? Calm your nerves.

On topic, I would be interested to know what you think about the actual claim I made. I am less interested in your thoughts on my spelling, diction, grammar, style, etc.

[AnthrAxNSB]

Learn to understand what you read. I said what I said, and it very much makes sense.

We're not talking height here. Vitaliy is how he is.

I don't know what your trying to say here. I didn't say your comment didn't make sense. I said it ("Vitali is how he is"), doesn't advance a claim of yours or refute my claim. It does nothing.

I also don't know what you mean by "we're not talking height here." My point is that Vitali's height, reach, clinching, and "karate defense" make him extremely difficult for any of today's HWs. That seems like something with which you should be in agreement.

[Dave Rado]

So, of the three boxers that Vitali has fought that are 6'4" or taller with an equivalent or better reach, only Lennox Lewis meets the other conditions (skilled, good hand speed, average HW punching power). And Lewis defeated Vitali. Case closed.

Your case is far from closed. You can't prove a negative with a negative. Lewis did not UD him, and he found a raw Vitali anything but easy. If there had been a rematch, it would have been a pick 'em fight. And Lewis is considered a borderline ATG, and Vitali is a far more polished fighter now than he was then.

[AntonTheMeh]

i'd like to thank bpp for giving me this thread.i was e broke.thanks bpp!

[AnthrAxNSB]

Your case is far from closed. You can't prove a negative with a negative. Lewis did not UD him, and he found a raw Vitali anything but easy. If there had been a rematch, it would have been a pick 'em fight. And Lewis is considered a borderline ATG, and Vitali is a far more polished fighter now than he was then.

Vitali fought well against Lewis. I agree.

I am only refuting the claim by the other board member that half of Vitali's victories matched the description I gave of the type of fighter that would defeat Vitali comfortably. Only one fighter matched my description, though, and his name is Lennox Lewis. And, while Lennox did not defeat Vitali by decision, he was able to hit him with head shots because there wasn't a size/skill mismatch. And, Lennox won. Vitali's opponents have either been undersized, underskilled, or both, with the exception of Lewis.

I think Vitali is a good fighter who uses his physical advantages appropriately. There aren't any really skilled HWs that also possess Vitali's size, strength, and reach. Because of this, I think he is a tough out for almost every HW who has ever lived. Again, I am not a hater, but a boxer who sees Vitali's defensive flaws and how they can be exploited by someone with skill and Vitali's size.

[Cleto_Reyes]

Man Arreola need to fight someone that just stand in fron t of him to beat him unless he losese some weighrt and increases his stamina

[Fighting Cougar]

The ref stopped the fight because the corner asked him too. .. He Quit! Thats why he said he didnt wanna quit...

His corner stopped it so how does that mean Arreola quit?, He didnt quit.