Does Tank vs Garcia prove that belts don’t matter?

[davef]

I prefer title fights between the best but this fight is like the professional version of these YouTube bouts.just 2 very different characters and personalities going at it making people pick sides rather than focus on the skill level

It's probably prime time for these 2 to fight as they have a good following on social media etc

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I prefer title fights between the best but this fight is like the professional version of these YouTube bouts.just 2 difference characters and personalities going at it

It's probably prime time for these 2 to fight as they have a good following on social media etc

How so man? The YouTube idiots can’t fight for sh** but both Tank and Garcia are legit high level fighters. I think it’s very harsh to compare them to those guys.

This is two young stars fighting in their prime, this is what boxing used to be about. Leonard and Hearns fought when they were 25 and 22 respectively.

Not saying it’s anywhere near that level, but I think it’s really refreshing to see two young stars in their 20’s going at it, rarely ever happens in the modern day tbh.

[davef]

How so man? The YouTube idiots can’t fight for sh** but both Tank and Garcia are legit high level fighters. I think it’s very harsh to compare them to those guys.

This is two young stars fighting in their prime, this is what boxing used to be about. Leonard and Hearns fought when they were 25 and 22 respectively.

Not saying it’s anywhere near that level, but I think it’s really refreshing to see two young stars in their 20’s going at it, rarely ever happens in the modern day tbh.

I don't mean the skill level of course its light years away and this is a legit fight but just saying its definitely a match up taking advantage of these new gen boxing fans who prefer what type of character they follow and not their ability

This fight wouldn't be getting made just for the hard-core boxing fans there wouldn't be enough money in the pot and they known it too because they haven't even bothered with a long promotion they know it sells

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I don't mean the skill level of course its light years away and this is a legit fight but just saying its definitely a match up taking advantage of these new gen boxing fans who prefer what type of character they follow and not their ability

This fight wouldn't be getting made just for the hard-core boxing fans there wouldn't be enough money in the pot and they known it too because they haven't even bothered with a long promotion they know it sells

I get what you mean.

Boxing nowadays relies on the casual fanbase unfortunately.

[MONGOOSE66]

Think about it, Haney and Loma will fight just a month later for every meaningful belt in the division yet nobody really cares or at least they certainly don’t care anywhere near as much as they care about Tank vs Garcia.

I’m a hardcore boxing fan, but I’ll openly admit I’m way more excited about Tank-Garcia than any other fight scheduled.

Anyone remember what happened to Zurdo when he FINALLY met a ELITE fighter?? Same is true for tank EXCEPT Garcia ISNT a elite fighter and they still put a rehydration clause on him cause they have no faith in tank. They could of fought Haney but DIDNT for a reason. He would box circles around tank Easy win, boring fight.
He SHOULD of fought Loma YEARS AGO but didnt and we all know why. Shakur is there and he will be IGNORED too.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Think about it, Haney and Loma will fight just a month later for every meaningful belt in the division yet nobody really cares or at least they certainly don’t care anywhere near as much as they care about Tank vs Garcia.

I’m a hardcore boxing fan, but I’ll openly admit I’m way more excited about Tank-Garcia than any other fight scheduled.

Tank & Ryan are the primary focus for American fighters because it's coming up shortly and they are currently having press conferences... Also, as least to the public, it seems as though there is drama between the 2. That's why it seems more interesting to people now.

Once this fight happens, the focus will go to the next best thing. Devin and Loma aren't creating buzz over their match up on disrespecting each other. It's not the nature of either of the 2.

None of the things I pointed out is evidence that "belts don't matter". Belts will always matter because when you are competing at that level hardware is status that you are elite above the field. Competitors always will gun for a championship......the new age fans care more about the NAMES and marketing of fighters.....Look at the numbers that guys like Jake Paul and Logan Paul get and neither of them have accomplished NOTHING vs any legit contender.

Some forget, that each division has close to 2000 active competitors in each of the 17 divisions with no less that 4 world titles available in each. If you have a world championship, that is a huge feather in your hat. If you have more than one then you are elite. Being undisputed is out of reach of 97% of the fighters in history. It shouldn't be downplayed just because you follow specific fighters more than you enjoy the entire sport.

Titles will always matter to those who are fans of the SPORT. Imagine basketball fans claiming an NBA Finals Championship doesn't matter. Imagine football fans downplaying the Super Bowl. Baseball fans not caring about the World Series.........Soccer fans dismissing the World Cup......Nascar, Tennis, Golf fans.........etc......

This just shows there's a difference between being a fan of the sport and being a Man Fan.....

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Tank & Ryan are the primary focus for American fighters because it's coming up shortly and they are currently having press conferences... Also, as least to the public, it seems as though there is drama between the 2. That's why it seems more interesting to people now.

Once this fight happens, the focus will go to the next best thing. Devin and Loma aren't creating buzz over their match up on disrespecting each other. It's not the nature of either of the 2.

None of the things I pointed out is evidence that "belts don't matter". Belts will always matter because when you are competing at that level hardware is status that you are elite above the field. Competitors always will gun for a championship......the new age fans care more about the NAMES and marketing of fighters.....Look at the numbers that guys like Jake Paul and Logan Paul get and neither of them have accomplished NOTHING vs any legit contender.

Some forget, that each division has close to 2000 active competitors in each of the 17 divisions with no less that 4 world titles available in each. If you have a world championship, that is a huge feather in your hat. If you have more than one then you are elite. Being undisputed is out of reach of 97% of the fighters in history. It shouldn't be downplayed just because you follow specific fighters more than you enjoy the entire sport.

Titles will always matter to those who are fans of the SPORT. Imagine basketball fans claiming an NBA Finals Championship doesn't matter. Imagine football fans downplaying the Super Bowl. Baseball fans not caring about the World Series.........Soccer fans dismissing the World Cup......Nascar, Tennis, Golf fans.........etc......

This just shows there's a difference between being a fan of the sport and being a Man Fan.....

Comparisons to those other sports is ridiculous. The NBA Playoffs are a pre-organised tournament as is the World Series, World Cup, Wimbledon etc. We know the final of that said tournament is the best two teams/players because they have to beat everybody else.

Boxing isn’t like that whatsoever. Fighters essentially choose who and when they fight and the ABC ratings completely lack credibility. Look at some the terrible mandatory challengers you get. You literally get fighters in the modern day who essentially beat to nobody become “world champion”. Take Haney’s WBC route for example. He got to fight Zaur Abdullaev for a “world title”.

It’s just a ****** comparison tbh man, Boxing is so unique in it’s governance or lack thereof compared to other sports.

[The Big Dunn]

Think about it, Haney and Loma will fight just a month later for every meaningful belt in the division yet nobody really cares or at least they certainly don’t care anywhere near as much as they care about Tank vs Garcia.

I’m a hardcore boxing fan, but I’ll openly admit I’m way more excited about Tank-Garcia than any other fight scheduled.

No, I dont think this makes belts meaningless.

people care about Haney v Loma. But Tank v Ryan is happening before that. Tank is the cash cow. Has cultivated a strong hip hop fan base and was affiliated with Floyd. In the news alot for infamous behavior .

Ryan is a social media star, backed by ODH, has cultivated a mainstream, younger fan base. Has some commercials.

This is a unique situation. I cant think of another fight that could be bigger than a unification, maybe Wilder v AJ but that is a streeeeeeeetch.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

No, I dont think this makes belts meaningless.

people care about Haney v Loma. But Tank v Ryan is happening before that. Tank is the cash cow. Has cultivated a strong hip hop fan base and was affiliated with Floyd. In the news alot for infamous behavior .

Ryan is a social media star, backed by ODH, has cultivated a mainstream, younger fan base. Has some commercials.

This is a unique situation. I cant think of another fight that could be bigger than a unification, maybe Wilder v AJ but that is a streeeeeeeetch.

Haney-Loma is a complete afterthought compared to Tank-Garcia.

I was trying to think of another example myself. Only one’s I thought of was say hypothetically Tyson fought Holyfield in early 96 instead of Bruno after Holyfield lost the titles to Bowe. Then the other one would be Ali-Frazier 2 but then we’re talking about the two biggest stars the sport has ever seen in Ali and Mike.

[Clegg]

I think they still matter. This fight is an exception due to the popularity both have, the majority of boxers need a belt in order to raise their public profile and be able to headline cards.

A fight like Ennis-Ortiz, you do it now I'm sure lots of fans would watch, but it would be bigger if they both had belts, even if they had won them in vacant title fights.