Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: I'm Telling Crawford, 'Let Me Help You In Making The Errol Spence Fight Happen'

[ELPacman]

Definitely agree with you that a prime De La Hoya beats both Spence and Crawford. But, clearly you think that it's Bud who is the one holding up their potential fight, and he deserves the criticism for it, but Spence (and his management) are equally to blame. And, while they are doing great financially, if they care about their legacies, then they have to fight. Because right now, they will be considered as a tier below ATG status. But, maybe they don't care about that, and only care about money.

I feel like that's because of the fault of OVER paying fighters these days. Why would they risk a loss and status of future mega checks against a great fighter than continue to milk against lower tier opposition for the same money?

I'm not saying giving boxers UFC pay, but 2-3 million dollar paychecks for non-PPV fight is absurd. Even PPV fights against bum opponents, they don't deserve that amount. They really need to restructure the pay format because as long as they get monster pay checks against easy opposition, there is no incentive to take a chance.

Back in the "hardcore" days, it was more like, you get paid according to moving up in the rankings and facing the better guys. You literally had to face a the top guys to get a huge paycheck when you hit that mega PPV fight.

[crimsonfalcon07]

It's sad to see how far De La Hoya has fallen. Most of the things he says really feel like he's grasping for relevance.

I figure there's blame on both sides, but c'mon. One guy left the stadium after the other guy beat Porter; didn't even want to get in the ring and start selling a possible mega fight. Leaving aside whatever happened during negotiations, that same guy is now fighting a guy he swore he'd never fight, and not even at 147, which shouldn't even satisfy his mandatory obligations. In the meantime, the other guy will likely have his second fight at 147 in about the same time frame. Which one of those guys actually wants the fight?

[messi807]

There's no shame in saying that lol everyone who knows boxing knows a prime De La Hoya would've beat both most likely by KO. If Egis and Gamboa can hurt Crawford and Porter and Ugas can hurt Spence without a doubt a left hook would hurt them both at 147 or 154.

Please. Oscar got dropped & hurt by much lesser punchers, imagine what Spence or Bud would've done with him. I don't think Crawford is the same fighter he was back in 2018/2019, looks slowed down. But prime vs prime, Oscar wouldn't beat Bud. Might catch him, might stun him but that's it. I think Spence would stop Oscar with a body-shot.
Oscar didn't look good against a past prime Pernell Whittaker in a fight most thought he lost. Didn't look good against Ike Quartey either in a fight that could've gone either way..got knocked down and hurt in that fight too. Quartey fight was one he called the toughest fight he had been in at the time, after the fight. Oscar was getting gifts against Felix Sturm & getting stopped by 40 year old B-Hop when he was 31-32 years of age, around Spence's age.

Great fight & a HOF but not an ATG in the slightest. Great career early on, no denying. But from aged 27+ till he retired he lost almost every big fight he was in.

[Griever0730]

Crawford might as well ride to GBP. There's not much elsewhere he can go and DLH has shown that he can work with PBC so f$#& it. None of these guys are ducking each other. Gotta blame these promoters for paying these dudes M's to fight lesser opposition as the reason big fights ain't happening. Now all these dudes think they're superstars bc of how bad some of these promoters f%#$@d the market up. Can't blame the fighters for taking advantage of the situation in such an unforgiving sport.

[Greenfield02]

Stop wasting your time, if Crawford really wanted to take on a challenge he already would of done it long time ago. This guy is been a pro how long? And what big fights has he looked for? Crawford is all talk, he wants to fight guys that present no danger. I mean I'm not a Ryan Garcia fan but he took the short end of the stick in order to face Tank, why? Because Garcia knows that he needs to take less now because if he wins, it will lead to more money, it's something fighters have been doing through out history to get the fights they need in order to become a bigger name, it's not rocket science. Diva Crawford wants the easy road to big money fights.....

[SteelFist01]

I feel like that's because of the fault of OVER paying fighters these days. Why would they risk a loss and status of future mega checks against a great fighter than continue to milk against lower tier opposition for the same money?

I'm not saying giving boxers UFC pay, but 2-3 million dollar paychecks for non-PPV fight is absurd. Even PPV fights against bum opponents, they don't deserve that amount. They really need to restructure the pay format because as long as they get monster pay checks against easy opposition, there is no incentive to take a chance.

Back in the "hardcore" days, it was more like, you get paid according to moving up in the rankings and facing the better guys. You literally had to face a the top guys to get a huge paycheck when you hit that mega PPV fight.

Yeah I agree with you mostly. I certainly don't think that a lot of these fighters are scared of one another, and most 'ducking', er I mean 'strategic matchmaking has more to do with their management and the state of the sport in this capitalist system. But, because of that us fans suffer. Or, I guess more specifically, us 'hardcore' fans suffer. Casual fans clearly don't care about the 'product', as evident by how popular YouTube fighters are, as well as having NON-PPV worthy fights on PPV. And when it comes to Spence and Crawford specifically, they seem greedy. Obviously it's easy for me to say, since I am not the one who is risking life and limb, nor is it my money to conveniently brush off, I still feel like they can both get paid handsomely AND fight sometime in this millennium. So, very long story short, I agree with the sentiment of 'not hating the player, and hating the game', I still feel that if they really want the fight for their legacies, they could renegotiate and come to some sort of compromise, but maybe they don't care about their legacies as much as I wish they would.

[Bronx2245]

How quickly things change! Not too long ago, Oscar was saying "Al Haymon is blocking all the fights!" Now he has Davis vs. Garcia on SHO, Stanionis vs. Ortiz Jr. on DAZN, and he's confident he can make Spence vs. Crawford! Amazing!

[Lefty0616]

I think at this point, Crawford will wait until the Davis VS Garcia aftermath to see what kind of results De La Hoya's promotions can deliver - at least waiting would be wise.

[TheIronMike]

Crawford can't do anything on his own. Always needing help, like a jobless man

[GBP4LIFE]

That money dried up at PBC.. Uncle Al doesn’t want to go into his personal reservoirs to make fights with his own overpaid fighters.. he needs the opps to get his guys paid now.