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  • nghtmr111
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    #41
    Originally posted by Uncle SneakyTouch
    Usyk best work the body. Stick and move. Usyk may not have windmills power or size but he's a hell of alot smarter.
    Yup. I believe he has to fight the perfect fight.

    He has good stamina but he was pretty tired during the (second) AJ fight because AJ made him work for it.

    Fury is definitely going to push his limits... but Usyk has a great chance. His skills aren't rated highly for no reason.

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    • Ropeydope
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      #42
      Originally posted by Kzbox

      You are highly overestimating Usyk's run he beat Joe Joyce in the amateur's which is a totally different thing, Chisora he had a somewhat rough time with despite it being with a 9 loss worn Chisora, Tony Bellew? come on man lol he has basically only beat AJ of note at heavyweight who had several question marks surrounding him since Ruiz 1.

      Don't get me wrong Usyk is very talented and has a great cruiserweight resume but he still hasn't convinced me as a heavyweight.
      Both boxers pass the eye test, both have impressive skills and unique qualities, but if you want to talk resumes. Usyk’s is better than Fury’s, hands down. The Wilder fights were entertaining but Wilder can’t box. Usyk would **** him out. Easy work.

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      • Lxg
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        #43
        “Don't get me wrong Usyk is very talented and has a great cruiserweight resume but he still hasn't convinced me as a heavyweight.” Really? Well you know who Usyk has convinced? Fury and Joe Joyce. Joyce said he would rather fight Fury than Usyk. There is no way Fury will risk fighting Usyk. He has turned Fury from the Gypsy King to a chicken. Not the great bare knuckles champion, the Game Chicken, but the blowhard fat belly Fury the chicken who only wants to fight non-boxers with 0-0 boxing records or people he has already beaten twice.

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        • FinitoxDinamita
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          #44
          He needs to stick and move kind of like what Carlos Quintana and Sergio Martinez did with Paul Williams if I remember correctly. He needs to utilize his speed and stay mobile but when there is an opening, he should throw with conviction and get Fury's respect.

          Usyk's chances at an upset are slim to none though imo. Certain fighters can make Fury uncomfortable enough to beat him but Usyk isn't one of them.

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          • Butt stuff
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            #45
            Everybody is overrating Usyk’s speed. He’s got faster feet than Fury, but I reckon they’re equal in speed everywhere else.

            Usyk just reads his opponent well, has good reactive speed and great timing - same as Lomachenko, another guy who gets tabbed as a speed demon but isn’t. Usyk was getting pipped to the punch constantly by Bellew until he drowned him.

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            • Kzbox
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              #46
              Originally posted by Ropeydope

              Both boxers pass the eye test, both have impressive skills and unique qualities, but if you want to talk resumes. Usyk’s is better than Fury’s, hands down. The Wilder fights were entertaining but Wilder can’t box. Usyk would **** him out. Easy work.
              Overall yeah obv as i say he has a great resume at cruiserweight i just haven't seen enough of him as a heavyweight to convince me he's the top dog, Usyk has to beat Fury to become heavyweight king imo not the other way around.

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              • bullydean
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                #47
                Mike was never a smart fighter. Without a decent coach and trainer he always lost or struggled.

                A) Usyk is not a heavy puncher.
                B) Usyk is considerably smaller than Fury.

                Regardless if you're a casual or a great boxing fan, anyone can tell that Usyk just needs to be Usyk.
                Keep boxing until the final bell. Hit and move.

                Wallin tried to stand his ground and got ragdolled by Fury and that was before Sugarhill.

                Mike gave the most brain dead take I've ever seen.

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                • Kzbox
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Lxg
                  “Don't get me wrong Usyk is very talented and has a great cruiserweight resume but he still hasn't convinced me as a heavyweight.” Really? Well you know who Usyk has convinced? Fury and Joe Joyce. Joyce said he would rather fight Fury than Usyk. There is no way Fury will risk fighting Usyk. He has turned Fury from the Gypsy King to a chicken. Not the great bare knuckles champion, the Game Chicken, but the blowhard fat belly Fury the chicken who only wants to fight non-boxers with 0-0 boxing records or people he has already beaten twice.
                  Well ofc he gets more respect/prestige for beating the top guy which is Fury, Usyk said he doesn't want to fight Joyce as "he's like a tank no i don't want to fight him" as i say amateurs is obviously different to heavyweight look how slim Joyce looked in that fight if he fought him now i think it would go down a little differently.

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                  • Ropeydope
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Kzbox

                    Overall yeah obv as i say he has a great resume at cruiserweight i just haven't seen enough of him as a heavyweight to convince me he's the top dog, Usyk has to beat Fury to become heavyweight king imo not the other way around.
                    Kinda the while point to it, and why it’s an intriguing fight. Usyk definitely has a steep hill to climb. If he loses a respectable decision, he’s still an all time great. If he does manage to win, though, he’s in GOAT territory.

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                      #50
                      The ****. Fury's best chance of winning is if Usyk stands and trade and Usyks best chance of winning is if he boxes and moves. Mike smoking too many bowls.

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