Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Advises Usyk To Stand His Ground With Fury, Not Run Around

[gooderz84]

It would appear that standing his ground at the negotiating table is keeping the fight from even happening.

[SN!PER]

Usyk should come straight at Fury and throw a million punches like Marcos Maidana, what could possibly go wrong.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Tyson Fury does not hit with more power than Joshua. And I also think Joshua is a physically stronger fighter, better combination punch ability and mid-range offense.

It will be interesting to see how Usyk fights Fury tactically. Usyk has not really shown a top-level inside game throughout his entire career, but maybe this is a fight were he needs to display this side of this game 'So thinking about this advice more from Mike Tyson, I can understand theoretically why Usyk would want to fight this way'.

I don't think Tyson Fury, this version of Fury has the ability to out box Usyk from long range 'Fury's endurance is overrated'. There are always technical moments of calamity in his fights also, were he makes unforced errors while fighting at a pace.

Who exactly has Fury out boxed of late at top level?

Whyte & Chisora hardly have any top-level movement or a advance long range game. I don't think Fury's performances vs those two fighters were impressive. Not only were they stylistically straight forward fights for Fury, both Whyte & Chisora were not in good form in my opinion 'Whyte has been burnt out for sometime'.

I am not being overly critical of Tyson Fury. Because the facts are that skill for skill he has not fought at this level for over 7 going on 8 years 'When Tyson Fury faces Usyk this will be his first fight back at elite level skill for skill for over 7 years' The Kiltschko fight was Fury's last fight, were skill for skill he fought another Heavyweight with elite level technical boxing skills.

The Deontay Wilder fights were elite level fights in terms of the challenge and magnitude of the event. But Wilder as a pure boxer, skill for skill 'Take away his power, gameness and aggression? Deontay Wilder is not a elite level technical fighter but he does have a solid Jab' I rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly within this era, the landscape of the Heavy weight division helps a fighter like Wilder excel 'Wilder really only has 1 trick, he has all this power but a little variation in how he delivers it'.

Fury was fatigued and making unforced errors from round 2 on wards vs Wilder 'Skill for skill he going to have to fight Usyk differently'. Fury has to minimize the points Usyk is going to try and rack up.

Note: I am aware that Tyson Fury has a tendency to fight to the level of his opposition 'This is a trait of Fury'. That is why this fight needs to happen, it is a difficult fight to accurately analyse. I am also not playing down Tyson Fury's wins vs Wilder 'Tyson Fury has the two best wins in the division which are Kiltschko & Wilder'.

[Willow The Wisp]

Tremendous professional fighters, beasts from the East.
All-time greats though????? Ran out of time, I think.

Oleksandr Usyk, 36. 20-0-0 (13)
Vasiliy Lomachenko, 35 17-2-0 (11)
Sergey Kovalev, 39. 35-4-1 (29)
Denis Lebedev, 43. 32-3-0 (23)
Viktor Postol, 39. 31-4-0 (12)

[theface07]

Middleweight will lose by wide UD or TKO. His strategy only decides the way of his loss not of outcome.

Also, middleweight ain't true mover. Intense footwork and running ain't same thing. He almost always stands in front of his opponents when fighting.

KO loss looks inevitable.

You're such a Fury fanboy that you've been reduced to just copying whatever he says in interviews. Do you have a mind of your own?

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You're such a Fury fanboy that you've been reduced to just copying whatever he says in interviews. Do you have a mind of your own?

Except "middleweight" (which is pretty accurate) there is no word from Fury here.

[theface07]

Fury fought two decision boxers. Cunningham got killed and Wlad got schooled.

Yeah and he got dropped by Cunningham and stunk the joint out against Wlad. That had to be one of the most boring heavyweight title fights of all time. Sure you can say he "schooled" Wlad but it was still an abomination to watch. I used to like Fury and find him amusing but he's just an annoying narcissist now who talks out of his arse on a daily basis.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Usyk will most likely fight Fury, the same way he fought Joshua.

Fury's power or physical strength is not going to intimidate Usyk like people are trying to make out.

Usyk has just faced and beaten a bigger puncher, and possibly physical stronger fighter than Fury twice 'Anthony Joshua'.

I don't see the evidence in Fury's performances which prove that he is a physically stronger fighter than Joshua?

Fury hardly fights his opponents head on at top level 'Apart from Deontay Wilder'.

One of Wilder's worst attributes is his physical strength, he is not a strong fighter on the inside or up close wrestling.

So really it was impressive how Fury showed courage moving towards Wilder's power. But not really a elite feat of strength bulling and pushing Wilder about.

We can all sit here and debate this fight, I just think right now? We need to know where the negotiations are at

I don't think this obligation is on Tyson Fury. The promoters needs to provide this information.

[real raw]

Tyson Fury needs to be given this advice more so than Usyk.

Fury outside of Wilder I & II, has rarely fought his opponents head on.

Even against the latest version of Chisora, who was miles out of condition 'Fury did not fight Chisora head on'.

Fury has not fought at elite level skill for skill for over 7- 8 years. Wilder was a elite level fight, but in terms of technical skill 'Wilder is not a elite level fighter'.

And that is no disrespect to Wilder, because I rate him extremely highly 'But Usyk is going to test Fury from a different dimension'.

It will be difficult to predict how exactly each fighters styles and skill level will look against one another 'Until they are inside the ring competing'.

I agree with most of this, but fury is a big man who takes up a lot of ring space. I dont think Usyk is going to pose that much a of puzzle

[PRINCEKOOL]

I agree with most of this, but fury is a big man who takes up a lot of ring space. I dont think Usyk is going to pose that much a of puzzle

Are we going to find out? Not many people foresaw how Usyk would beat Joshua.

I have not currently picked a winner as of yet. But I can make a case for both fighters.

The most compelling case I have made thus-far is for the Usyk win.

I have not really came at the fight from a Tyson Fury perspective as of yet.

Fury is difficult to summarize, because quite simply he has not fought at this level of technical skill for over 7 years 'This is a different kind of test in comparison to Wilder'. Wilder was a fight were Fury had to show a level of courage and determination, that maybe most fighters would struggle to duplicate 'Courage, determination and being 270+ pounds is not going to beat Usyk alone'.

Still nothing to do with technical skill, I do value Tyson Fury's clutch game 'He is a big time performer'.

So although I honestly don't think his recent performances have been impressive, I expect him to up his levels.

I still make Fury the favorite. But the more I analyse the match up, the case for Usyk builds more dangerously.