Bruce Lee the Unbeatable

[MindBat]

i'd take pacquiao over bruce lee in a street fight.

boxers wouldn't do well with grapplers in a one on one fight but boxers would eat up all these kung fu/karate guys.

as far as strikers go , boxers would only be troubled by muay thai guys because of the leg kicks and knees in clinches.

Even Manny wouldn't give himself a chance against Bruce. In fact, isn't there a video interview where he states that Bruce would beat him in a fight?

yeah bruce lee is the father of mma.

they've only been doing mma in greece during the days of the first olympics.

lmao

modern mma was around before bruce lee was born.

ever since a japanese judo master thought it to this scottish-brazilian family named gracies. maybe you've heard of them?

It wasn't called MMA back in the days of Greece. And I would bet today's modern fighters would beat most fighters from the Pankration days.

Modern MMA was NOT around before Bruce was born.

Bruce helped put the focus on versatility in the martial arts. He, and many others the world over, found that the traditional arts were limited in techniques. The majority of the traditional martial arts are one dimensional.

Yes. I'm aware of who introduced the Gracies to jiu-jitsu. The Gracies
refined it into what is today known as MMA.

[Wiley Hyena]

This is well publicized footage of Bruce 'sparring'. One can decipher who's Bruce and can agree he had the abilities to compete as a boxer at the top level.

Yes. Good post. I think I've read about this rare video. Lee had to be covered up in gear to protect his opponent and that weighed Lee down. Notice that Lee never gets airborne in this full contact exhibition. But, the speed is all too apparent. Quicksilver. Fastest reflexes of all time.

[Breakbeat]

Who cares about Bruce Lee now? He's dead and can't fight anyway.......LOL

When people talk about sports martial arts and street fighting they are two different things as well.

The only reason all this ground grappling works for MMA fighters is because the rules are in place for them to have the advantage.

In a real life situation if someone was to try and take you to the ground and use these submission moves on you, you would try and bite, eye gouge and other nasty ways to get out of these situations.

[Wiley Hyena]

Who cares about Bruce Lee now? He's dead and can't fight anyway.......LOL

When people talk about sports martial arts and street fighting they are two different things as well.

The only reason all this ground grappling works for MMA fighters is because the rules are in place for them to have the advantage.

In a real life situation if someone was to try and take you to the ground and use these submission moves on you, you would try and bite, eye gouge and other nasty ways to get out of these situations.

That's not the point. Nobody knows how Lee was able to perform like that. It's a mystery. He used to lay across a bench in China with his body in perfect horizontal position for 6 hours or more...to the amazement of the crowd.

[Adamantium]

Since there isn't any boxing footage of him in action, I'll concede. But millions around the world would say he would kick a boxer's ass.

I feel he would have been an all time great at boxing. That just wasn't his main focus or interest, to compete as a boxer.

His main focus was on no-rules fighting which incorporated boxing and MMA techniques.



The reason he didn't compete was that he didn't like point tournaments which was prevalent in the 60's and 70's. He didn't think those tournaments proved anyone could actually fight. He was used to full contact, no holds barred fighting.

Bruce sparred with many top fighters back in the day. He taught Joe Lewis 'strategy' to improve his tournament and full contact game which he himself stated made a huge difference. In fact, Joe Lewis, currently dedicates his time to teaching Bruce's fighting methods in honor of what he learned from Bruce.

Gene LeBelle will vouch for Bruce's skills and abilities, as would the late Wally Jay.

I'm not sure if he ever sparred with Mike Stone, but I wouldn't doubt they did, as Mike was one of Ed Parker's top students and Ed and Bruce traded
a lot of techniques and philosophies.

Joe lewis in many interviews has said, that he never sparred with Bruce ever, no matter how much he asked. Mike Stone never sparred with him either and said so himself. Joe lewis considers Bruce Lee to be a teacher and actor, but not a fighter. When tournament fighting was point fighting, Bruce Lee had a valid reason not to partake, but what about when it became full contact.

Stone said that he never felt like Bruce Lee had much to teach him, but he did consider him his equal in fighting ability which is a compliment.
Gene Lebelle didn't think much of Bruce Lee as a fighter, its only after he died that he started to speak in more reverential tones about him.

[Breakbeat]

That's not the point. Nobody knows how Lee was able to perform like that. It's a mystery. He used to lay across a bench in China with his body in perfect horizontal position for 6 hours or more...to the amazement of the crowd.

He was obsessed with reaching physical perfection. Traditional martial arts not only trains the body but the mind.

[Breakbeat]

[MindBat]

Who cares about Bruce Lee now? He's dead and can't fight anyway.......LOL

When people talk about sports martial arts and street fighting they are two different things as well.

The only reason all this ground grappling works for MMA fighters is because the rules are in place for them to have the advantage.

In a real life situation if someone was to try and take you to the ground and use these submission moves on you, you would try and bite, eye gouge and other nasty ways to get out of these situations.

That, my friend, is what Bruce emphasized in his teachings. He espoused realism in practice for self protection, not practice for tournaments.

That's not the point. Nobody knows how Lee was able to perform like that. It's a mystery. He used to lay across a bench in China with his body in perfect horizontal position for 6 hours or more...to the amazement of the crowd.

Lee was well learned about the physical arts.

Joe lewis in many interviews has said, that he never sparred with Bruce ever, no matter how much he asked. Mike Stone never sparred with him either and said so himself. Joe lewis considers Bruce Lee to be a teacher and actor, but not a fighter. When tournament fighting was point fighting, Bruce Lee had a valid reason not to partake, but what about when it became full contact.

Stone said that he never felt like Bruce Lee had much to teach him, but he did consider him his equal in fighting ability which is a compliment.
Gene Lebelle didn't think much of Bruce Lee as a fighter, its only after he died that he started to speak in more reverential tones about him.

Joe considers him a teacher and not fighter doesn't make sense.

Joe Lewis respected Bruce enough to teach him how to improve his fighting game, but he didn't consider Bruce a fighter? I dont' get that.

I would want to learn from someone who actually knew how to fight as opposed to learning from someone who theorized about how to fight.
Much like learning more from a boxing trainer who's been in the trenches and has experienced real contact in the ring.

I don't know for certain if he did or didn't spar with Joe. But Joe benefited
from much of what he learned from Bruce. Enough to allow Joe to reach the top of the tournament circuit when he was active.

And I would venture to say that there had to be some sort of sparring between the two at some point to demonstrate and prove the effectiveness of the techniques shared.

Based on past articles and reports, Mike Stone also didn't really like Bruce.
I think their egos clashed, as it did with other individuals who didn't think much of Bruce.

[Breakbeat]

People in the west need to see some kind of belt or trophy to prove how good somebody is at martial arts. If someone crosses hands with a traditional martial artist they will know the difference.

[hammerhiem]

chuck norris would kick bruce lee's ass in a real fight.

Even Chuck Norris said Bruce would beat him in a fight.

Any Boxer/Modern MMA fighter would beat the Living **** out of Lee.

he would be a featherweight or Super feather btw guys so don't be giving the Wlad/kessler Bollox, they would KO1 Pac too.