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[Str8.2.Da.Point]

I already proved you wrong what else is there for me to say?

Oh, you're ignorant enough to believe you proved something.... Humor me.....what part was I wrong on?...... Try your hardest not to be a clown and give some actual facts.....Only thing I see you doing is bitching because I pointed out that Ortiz has shown himself to be entitled.....

[Uncle SneakyTouch]

Oh, you're ignorant enough to believe you proved something.... Humor me.....what part was I wrong on?...... Try your hardest not to be a clown and give some actual facts.....Only thing I see you doing is bitching because I pointed out that Ortiz has shown himself to be entitled.....

I literally left one comment saying ortiz has a better resume than the guys your comparing him too. That's factual.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

I literally left one comment saying ortiz has a better resume than the guys your comparing him too. That's factual.

Ahhh, you LITERALLY don't know what factual means........ You left one comment that had nothing to do with the thesis of this post and then you argued it as if I told you the opposite.

When you use words like "better", that makes it an opinion..... Now you are entitled to your opinion....that's fine....The funny thing is, you don't see me arguing the opposite regarding Ortiz's resume but instead of you trying to understand the actual point of the post, you bitched up and started name calling like me not praising Ortiz somehow offended you.

Here's the facts..... Ortiz has fought only 2 opponents who've ever been ranked in the division.....Guess what.... Ennis has fought only 2 opponents who've ever been ranked in the division.

More facts....Ortiz has fought only 1 opponent who've ever held a world title and it was in a lower division....Guess what..... Ennis has also only fought 1 opponent who've ever held a world title and it was in a lower division.

So, again......break it down in dummy terms...... tell me exactly what is it that Ortiz has done that puts him head and shoulders above the other up and comers?

[elfag]

theres a lot of guys now that make it to their 30s without ever beating anybody and claiming they been ducked the whole time.

guys like andrande. also you look at GGG hes crying he was robbed against canelo but then what does he do to prove he was great, goes and fights a steve rolls, what the *** is that

[Uncle SneakyTouch]

Ahhh, you LITERALLY don't know what factual means........ You left one comment that had nothing to do with the thesis of this post and then you argued it as if I told you the opposite.

When you use words like "better", that makes it an opinion..... Now you are entitled to your opinion....that's fine....The funny thing is, you don't see me arguing the opposite regarding Ortiz's resume but instead of you trying to understand the actual point of the post, you bitched up and started name calling like me not praising Ortiz somehow offended you.

Here's the facts..... Ortiz has fought only 2 opponents who've ever been ranked in the division.....Guess what.... Ennis has fought only 2 opponents who've ever been ranked in the division.

More facts....Ortiz has fought only 1 opponent who've ever held a world title and it was in a lower division....Guess what..... Ennis has also only fought 1 opponent who've ever held a world title and it was in a lower division.

So, again......break it down in dummy terms...... tell me exactly what is it that Ortiz has done that puts him head and shoulders above the other up and comers?

I don't go by rankings. I go by who's more accomplished. And ortiz has beat the more accomplished fighters than booty ennis. Hence the reason he has a better resume


Also that's absolute bs. Ortiz has definitely beat more ranked opponents than booty anyway

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

I don't go by rankings. I go by who's more accomplished. And ortiz has beat the more accomplished fighters than booty ennis. Hence the reason he has a better resume


Also that's absolute bs. Ortiz has definitely beat more ranked opponents than booty anyway

You don't go by rankings but you end your rebuttal claiming he beat more ranked opponents......... Mean Machine and McKinson.....who else was ranked that Ortiz beat.......come on buddy......enlighten me.

And rankings is an accomplishment.... You opened your mouth calling me dumb, but you are trying to argue that Ortiz has beaten more accomplished opposition but say you don't go by rankings....... How in the entire **** does that make any sense. WHO has Ortiz beat that gives you this notion that he has beaten more accomplished opponents. Hooker is the ONLY opponent who's ever held a world title and as I pointed out, he got that at a lower division.....No different than Boots beating Lipinets who's world title came from that same division........

The sport of boxing and all major sports have a ranking system. When you are the best of the best, you tend to move to the top of those rankings. And when you are at the top of those rankings, you become a mandatory to fight the champion of that ranking.

I feel like your goal is to try an win a debate that you created for yourself, because your logic is missing with this argument. I pointed out that Ortiz's best wins is Mean Machine, Hooker, & McKinson........those guys have accomplished nothing different than Boot's best opponents of Lipinets, Dulorme, Karen, and Clayton.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

theres a lot of guys now that make it to their 30s without ever beating anybody and claiming they been ducked the whole time.

guys like andrande. also you look at GGG hes crying he was robbed against canelo but then what does he do to prove he was great, goes and fights a steve rolls, what the *** is that

I agree with just about everything you said.... I do feel GGG won that first Canelo fight though. I had never seen Canelo backed up so much for so long in a 12 round bout.

[just the facts]

Your dumb af. Ortiz easily has a better resume than all the people your comparing him too

According to you every poster here is “dumb af” and every single thread is ******. Which begs the question, why do you come here.

Whose alt are you? Why are you so afraid to say? You couldn’t have been as much of a douche bag then as you are now.

Only a pedophile would chose Uncle Sneaky Touch for a username.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

According to you every poster here is “dumb af” and every single thread is ******. Which begs the question, why do you come here.

Whose alt are you? Why are you so afraid to say? You couldn’t have been as much of a douche bag then as you are now.

Only a pedophile would chose Uncle Sneaky Touch for a username.

I honestly tried my hardest not to address his username....... That **** is weird AF to me. Why would someone willingly call themself that......

[maguirre]

I don't pay much attention to a manager speaking on business he isn't directly involved in. He needs to focus on getting Boots opponents ranked in the top 15 rather than commenting on what Spence and Crawford is able to do and what financing is available for them.

It's directly related to what they've been doing for the past years waiting for Spence. Finally being told by Espinoza that the fight is not going to happen would make them focus on other fights.