In real life, no fights end up on the ground... Agree?!

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  • Syf
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    #21
    To the OP...

    Fights do end up on the ground on occasion. Tackles and such.

    But if you are a trained fighter... boxing, martial arts, and so forth, you have a better chance of fending off a ground attacker/wrestler with your strikes and not allowing yourself to be taken down.

    One thing I've noticed about MMA is they try to concentrate so much on every area of fighting that they do not truly excel at one. They dilute themselves.

    Their strikers are all epic fail compared to boxing's best strikers.

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    • studentofthegam
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      #22
      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
      In real life there is no tapout. There's you gettin your arm broke off or choked to sleep. Both are just as effective if not more effective a way of ending a fight as knocking someone out.
      I said you would give up not that they would turn you loose. Im in touch with reality but thankyou for settin me straight.

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      • BoxingChaos
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        #23
        Originally posted by RepublicaEnemy1
        Only fights involving women maybe. That's why MMA is a gay combat sport.
        In some street fights, there are those who will go only toe to toe.
        But to say that fights never go to the ground?
        There are many styles of fighting but you have to love a street fight where both people are willing to stand and trade the entire time with out having to go to the ground. I guess that is what fights should be like but not every one can do it and not every one plays by the same rules. Chocking some one out or putting them in a position where you can break something of theirs like an arm or a leg ain't no joke either.

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        • MOREBASS
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          #24
          Originally posted by Syf

          But if you are a trained fighter... boxing, martial arts, and so forth, you have a better chance of fending off a ground attacker/wrestler with your strikes and not allowing yourself to be taken down.
          This is simply not true. Watch even the earliest UFC's and see how effective striking is when someone gets a hold of you. Every tae kwon do, karate, kickboxer, and boxer was eventually taken down, and beaten to a pulp.

          Eat a few punches to get in, then its over.

          One thing I've noticed about MMA is they try to concentrate so much on every area of fighting that they do not truly excel at one. They dilute themselves.

          Their strikers are all epic fail compared to boxing's best strikers.

          Most MMA fighters specialize in one discipline, and build on that to transition into MMA.

          For instance, there are kickboxers who will learn ground game to transition.

          There are wrestlers who will pick up stand up fighting, and some jiu jitsu.

          You get the picture.

          But to compare their strikers to boxers is moronic. They are doing two completely different things. Of course an MMA fighter isn't going to box the way a boxer would in a boxing match. That makes no sense.

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          • Nuurzhaelan
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            #25
            Originally posted by RepublicaEnemy1
            Only fights involving women maybe. That's why MMA is a gay combat sport.
            Actually, dumbass, 90% of fights end up on the ground. I hate it when boxers 'clinch' and I find mma insufferable.

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            • nystate0fm1nd
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              #26
              a few of my fights have ended up on the ground where we've grappled and punched each other. otherwise the rest have been stand-up. depends on what happens. boxing is better for a quick 1-2 goodnight. i dont agree with beating someone while they are on the ground unless you both go down.

              i like MMA a lot though. wrestling and jujitsu are awesome techniques, but i can't see using JJ in a street fight unless by some chance you choke someone out. Wrestling, on the other hand, can definitely be used.

              I like boxing the best for street fights, though. Most people don't know how to throw a straight punch and its game over for them!

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              • Syf
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                #27
                Originally posted by MOREBASS
                This is simply not true. Watch even the earliest UFC's and see how effective striking is when someone gets a hold of you. Every tae kwon do, karate, kickboxer, and boxer was eventually taken down, and beaten to a pulp.

                Eat a few punches to get in, then its over.
                In the earliest UFC's they had scrubs. The best fighters of every respective discipline didn't show up from boxing, kung fu, or your name it. There was some weak ass middle aged dudes claiming to be karate or kickboxer guys, and a sumo wrestler, as I recall. Of course Gracie was gonna get it.

                Besides, who says they can eat a few bare fisted punches from someone that trains single-mindedly to punch? Thats quite an assumption. Consider Machida, he is principally a striker and has up to now, fended off the grappler types. And machida wears gloves. And he doesn't train to strike as much as say... a world class boxer.

                Most MMA fighters specialize in one discipline, and build on that to transition into MMA.

                For instance, there are kickboxers who will learn ground game to transition.

                There are wrestlers who will pick up stand up fighting, and some jiu jitsu.

                You get the picture.
                exactly my point. They spread their skills too thin trying to cover too much theoretical ground. Like a principal grappler that tries to develop "striking game" looks so pathetic and out of his element, because he is.

                But to compare their strikers to boxers is moronic. They are doing two completely different things. Of course an MMA fighter isn't going to box the way a boxer would in a boxing match. That makes no sense.
                I am not talking about boxing, I'm talking about how boxers train to throw a punch with the most leverage, speed, and power possible, to decapacitate an opponent. A level of intricacy in training that MMA guys that claim to have "striking game" can only pray for.

                Plus, the fact that a boxer wouldn't be wearing pillows on his fists would only shorten that road to striking dominance.

                But think what you wish.

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                • Jabroni
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                  #28
                  Boxing is one of the most ancient, if not the original, of fighting forms. It's gotten some fine tuning to become ****en awesome what it is. With MMA, the training time is, as someone pointed out, shared/diluted among stand-up and ground. Hopefully someday it will be frequent to have a world class caliber fighter do-it-all.

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                  • Mersey
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                    #29
                    TS never been in a fight?

                    Eventually, they usually always end up on the floor.

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                      #30
                      In the Army (i'm not in it a have a couple of friends) they tell them that almost all fights end up on the ground and teach them some Muay Tai for that... if you pay close attention at street fights most people end up punching on the ground i mean i love boxing... but that's just how it is

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