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  • IronDanHamza
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    #61
    Originally posted by Silence

    First Barrera fight has also case for his peak.

    1- Cotto
    2- Barrera 1
    3- ODLH
    4- Ledwaba
    5- Morales 2
    Ledwaba how?

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      #62
      Originally posted by SweetPbfAli

      Oh, Cotto was always a quality a fighter, I would never say otherwise. I'm just saying that most fighters look different after their first loss and he was no exception.

      He fought that Jennings kid that was a soft touch, confidence building fight and then fought Clottey and got a decision he may not have deserved. He looked unsure of himself in that fight to say the least.
      Yeah I’m not saying he was at his peak but he was still a very good fighter up until 2015 IMO.

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        #63
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

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          #64
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
          manny appeared unstoppable that night. HOFr Cotto won MAYBE 2 rounds

          has Alvarez had a level or greater performance
          Maybe not but he has some gritty performances when you are fighting the best guys available in their prime its par for the course.

          Shout out to the Floyd boy/Manny haters who took the time out to make a million excuses for Cotto.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Silence

            First Barrera fight has also case for his peak.

            1- Cotto
            2- Barrera 1
            3- ODLH
            4- Ledwaba
            5- Morales 2
            yeah but against barrera he still looks kinda sloppy... against oscar and cotto, he looked good. he wasnt sloppy.

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              #66
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              Pac would not have fought Cotto without a CW.
              Even though Cotto was the champ
              Pac then refused to pay it back by fighting Cotto without a CW rematch

              It's a shame Pac fought so many guys at their worst.

              Nelo > Kov > Everything Pac ever did.
              Excuses excuses. Manny beat the brakes off of prime Cotto was 29 yrs., 34-1. If he was scared of him he would have did what Floyd did and ducked him altogether by faking a retirement

              Undefeated Prime Cotto called Floyd out, but Floyd's phone was disconnected due to that 2 year vacation or retirement, depending on what day of the week it is.
              Last edited by djtmal; 02-02-2023, 04:19 PM.

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                #67
                Floyd Mayweather Junior beat a better prepared Miguel Cotto, who was coming off better wins 'With more momentum in his career'.

                Cotto before he fought Mayweather Junior, had just avenged a traumatic loss in his rematch with Margarito.

                The fight was also staged at the full 154 pound limit 'Not a catch weight'.

                It was a closer fight, but? Nobody can deny that Cotto was better prepared, and most likely in a better place within his career.

                Pauli Malignaggi has stated that he values 'Cotto vs Mayweather Junior, as the super fight of that era in the Welter Weight Division'. Maligaggi has stated that it was a more significant fight than Pacquaio vs Mayweather Junior 'In his own words etc'.

                By the time Pacquaio vs Mayweather Junior was made 'Both fighters were too far into the latter part of their careers, I actually think Mayweather was in worst form. For me Mayweather Junior was not in top form, and basically beat Pacquaio without even going through the gears'.

                Pacquaio really should of pushed Mayweather Junior, to go through the gears.

                Even during the build up Cotto vs Mayweather Junior, it appeared to be a more significant fight 'It was insider's fight, people in the boxing game knew this was a fight that was being made at a competitive time for both fighters'.






                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-02-2023, 05:10 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Floyd Mayweather Junior beat a better prepared Miguel Cotto, who was coming off better wins 'With more momentum in his career'.

                  Cotto before he fought Mayweather Junior, had just avenged a traumatic loss in his rematch with Margarito.

                  The fight was also staged at the full 154 pound limit 'Not a catch weight'.

                  It was a closer fight, but? Nobody can deny that Cotto was better prepared, and most likely in a better place within his career.

                  Pauli Malignaggi has stated that he values 'Cotto vs Mayweather Junior, as the super fight of that era in the Welter Weight Division'. Maligaggi has stated that it was a more significant fight than Pacquaio vs Mayweather Junior 'In his own words etc'.

                  By the time Pacquaio vs Mayweather Junior was made 'Both fighters were too far into the latter part of their careers, I actually think Mayweather was in worst form. For me Mayweather Junior was not in top form, and basically beat Pacquaio without even going through the gears'.

                  Pacquaio really should of pushed Mayweather Junior, to go through the gears.

                  Even during the build up Cotto vs Mayweather Junior, it appeared to be a more significant fight 'It was insider's fight, people in the boxing game knew this was a fight that was being made at a competitive time for both fighters'.





                  This is an even longer excuse than the one I just read.

                  Maybe the excuse I read prior got to the point with fewer words.

                  So now the excuse is Floyd fought a better prepared Cotto.

                  You can't make this stuff up
                  Last edited by djtmal; 02-02-2023, 05:33 PM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Excuses excuses. Manny beat the brakes off of prime Cotto was 29 yrs., 34-1. If he was scared of him he would have did what Floyd did and ducked him altogether by faking a retirement

                    Undefeated Prime Cotto called Floyd out, but Floyd's phone was disconnected due to that 2 year vacation or retirement, depending on what day of the week it is.
                    Sorry about this upcoming wakeup call but facts are not excuses.
                    ''Me lost easy because my arm fell off in training.'' = Excuse
                    ''Me not like blood leaving my body 4 weeks before a fight.'' = Fact

                    Pac was a bltch when it came to the couple of guys who actually presented any form of danger.
                    The best version of Cotto kills the best version of Pac.

                    No version of Cotto beats shot May.
                    You can blame Arum for it not happening sooner = Fact !

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      This is an even longer excuse than the one I just read.

                      Maybe the excuse I read prior got to the point with fewer words.

                      So now the excuse is Floyd fought a better prepared Cotto.

                      You can't make this stuff up
                      You can't make this stuff up, because none of this is made up.

                      Floyd Mayweather Junior fought a better optimally prepared Miguel Cotto 'At the full 154 pound limit'.

                      Cotto was coming off better wins, and had more momentum in his career.

                      His win vs Margarito avenging a traumatic loss. Was a bigger win for him, than any wins he had coming into the Pacquaio fight.

                      Nobody is making any excuses, for Floyd Mayweather Junior. He beat a better version, better prepared Miguel Cotto.

                      In the real true super fight of that Welter Weight era 'For boxing insiders, that fight was Cotto vs Mayweather Junior'.

                      It was more of a significant fight than Pacquaio vs Mayweather Junior. Because both fighters by then were too far into the latter part of their careers.

                      Pacquaio had already been ****** out and beaten numerous times before also.

                      Pacquaio's win vs Cotto is still a great win, but I just think the catch weight was unnecessary. I also don't really rate his win vs Oscar De La Hoya.

                      That is another fight were Mayweather Junior 1000% fought a better version of Oscar De La Hoya. No catch weight, at the full 154 pound limit 'No re-hydration clause'.

                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-03-2023, 08:59 AM.

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