Does Alvarez Have a Performance As Great Ad manny TKO Cotto

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  • LeOoze
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    #51
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Pac offered cotto a rematch at 147, a guy he destroyed. Floyd never offered Nel0 a rematch, so why you making out pac is some kind of ducker?
    He offered Cotto a rematch when Cotto was fighting at 154. LOL. That's like Floyd offering to fight Canelo at 154 after Canelo moved to 160.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #52
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      Prime isn’t based on number of fights it’s based on performance you f***ing halfwit.

      When did I say Cotto was in his prime??? I never, I said he was still a quality fighter, which he was and his PERFORMANCE proves that.

      Work on your comprehension you ****** c***.
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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #53
        Alvarez did fight Golovkin, while? Not at his absolute peak, he was without a shadow of a doubt in Top form. Alvarez vs Golovkin I & II were not staged at a catch weight 'Golovkin was also unbeaten'.

        One fight was scored as a draw, and the second fight was scored as a Alvarez win.

        Pacquiao's win vs Cotto was still impressive, but as I research more? The fight was held at a catch weight of 145 pounds 'Two pounds below the 147 pound Welter Weight limit'.

        And, I am not sure whether there was also a re-hydration clause? I cannot find any evidence that there was a re-hydration clause. So I rate this win, still as a great win for Pacquiao.

        Alvarez win or performances vs Golovkin are very close. Mainly because Golovkin was unbeaten, fighting at his best weight class 'And the fight was not staged at a catch weight'.

        Note: I was backing Cotto to beat Pacquaio. But in the very first round, I did noticed Cotto's movement and stability not on point. Still it was great fight.

        Zab Judah vs Miguel Cotto is one of my favorite Miguel Cotto fights. The atmosphere and engagement from the crowd was awesome 'And so was the action and effort from both fighters'.





        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-01-2023, 08:52 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
          manny appeared unstoppable that night. HOFr Cotto won MAYBE 2 rounds

          has Alvarez had a level or greater performance
          Pac would not have fought Cotto without a CW.
          Even though Cotto was the champ
          Pac then refused to pay it back by fighting Cotto without a CW rematch

          It's a shame Pac fought so many guys at their worst.

          Nelo > Kov > Everything Pac ever did.

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            #55
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            I think he was still a quality fighter. He definitely proved it against Floyd. The only poor performance I can remember was when he lost to Trout.

            Pacquiao simply has a style which is a nightmare for Cotto to deal with.
            Oh, Cotto was always a quality a fighter, I would never say otherwise. I'm just saying that most fighters look different after their first loss and he was no exception.

            He fought that Jennings kid that was a soft touch, confidence building fight and then fought Clottey and got a decision he may not have deserved. He looked unsure of himself in that fight to say the least.

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              #56
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              Pac would not have fought Cotto without a CW.
              Even though Cotto was the champ
              Pac then refused to pay it back by fighting Cotto without a CW rematch

              It's a shame Pac fought so many guys at their worst.

              Nelo > Kov > Everything Pac ever did.
              Arum literally forced Cotto into defending his belt at the CW or the fight was off. I remember all of this but people have selective memories about certain fighters.

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                #57
                Originally posted by SweetPbfAli

                Arum literally forced Cotto into defending his belt at the CW or the fight was off. I remember all of this but people have selective memories about certain fighters.
                WW Pac is a farce.
                Pre WW Pac isn't much better.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Offensive Wizardry

                  utterly absurd logic and quite a dishonest post.

                  mayweather fought the cotto that was already beaten by pac and margarito.

                  with 24 hr rehydration, the catchweights are basically useless.

                  cotto weighed what 1lb less vs clottey than he did vs pacquiao. i reckon getting thoroughly demolished twice has a bigger physical and mental effect than one pound on the scale.

                  the canelo that floyd faced was more weight drained than the cotto that pac faced.


                  Manny also fought Cotto sooner after his first loss which could also be a thing of timing being on his side. He also fought him at CW that Cotto didn't want to accept or at least not defend his title at but Arum basically said the fight is off if he doesn't defend the belt.

                  Then, Cotto had his cousin or some **** in his corner who never trained before. As for the weight for Clottey, did you guys actually watch that fight? Cotto did not look good so that's not point that you guys think it is.

                  Cotto versus Mayweather was more battle tested for sure, but also had more stability and was fighting at a more comfortable weight at that moment in time. These things matter.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    According to Canelo fans, it would have been the Floyd fight if it weren’t for those two pounds..
                    Well bad luck to Floyd.
                    if he didn’t do the pointless catchweight which he did not need, then he wouldn’t have to have an asterisk next to a win. He has only himself to blame for the advantages he used due to his stardom

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                      #60
                      Who is the catch weight king

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