Who exactly avoided Ennis? What are the names?

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  • al-Xander
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    Who exactly avoided Ennis? What are the names?

    I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying.

    There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme.

    Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight.
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    I think Ennis gets a pass for this one on the basis that it's for the interim IBF title - the opponent is admittedly very poor but he was the highest ranked contender available.
    Was Thurman not asking for $10m to fight Ennis? I'd have him down on the list of duckers.

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    • al-Xander
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      #3
      Originally posted by BrilliantAJ
      I think Ennis gets a pass for this one on the basis that it's for the interim IBF title - the opponent is admittedly very poor but he was the highest ranked contender available.
      Was Thurman not asking for $10m to fight Ennis? I'd have him down on the list of duckers.
      Hmm, I don't know why people see his case in narrow lenses. Here Thurman is mentioned when Keith avoided many names. No one seems to question Ennis' 16th, 17th, 18th fight, etc. They don't wonder why after 15th, 20th, he still won't fight Kavaliauskas level opponents. We're not even asking Thurman-level.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Al_Xander
        I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying.

        There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme.

        Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight.
        Well, if he's in his 31st fight and still "fighting a guy nobody has heard of," then there's nothing more to add. His team carefully picked guys that can't bite throughout his career. They see it in a business perspective and they're in it for a long haul.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Al_Xander
          I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying.

          There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme.

          Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight.
          Keith Thurman.

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          • Tails
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            I agree with OP in a way. Ennis has not been in this position long enough to be considered avoided.

            As for his career progression his team took their time to develop him along the way. I have issue with that and sometimes think more fighters should do that instead of trying to rush things.

            If in a year from now he has not had a meaningful fight against a top contender pr ex champion then you can start saying he is avoided I feel.

            All that said, as aof right now fighters around his simialr rank and position do appear to not want anything to do with him because of the high risk factor.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Al_Xander
              I keep hearing this nonsense. In reality this can easily be proven by asking Team Ennis who they approached and who declined. If they give you names you can contact those names and ask their side of the story. People can be sued for lying.

              There was even this report that Stanionis was turned down by Ennis' team and Stan opted to fight Dulorme.

              Stanionis got 15 fights on his record and he's already fighting the biggest fight of his career in his 16th, yet here is Ennis in his 31st fight fighting a guy nobody has heard of. They didn't even try approaching Ugas, Kavaliauskas, Butaev, Crowley, Avanesyan who was available for many months before the Bud fight.
              No one has avoided him.

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              • buddyr
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                #8
                no one. 7th year as a pro and hasn't fought another top 10 fighter yet. And he won't for the rest of this year and fight 2 or 3 times this year against opponents none of us know.

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                • brettWall
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                  No one. His team picked and choose guys that won't derail the train. They picked Karen when other higher level opponents are available. Butaev would say yes in a heartbeat. Kavaliauskas, Avanesyan like you said was available for many months before the Crawford fight.

                  Forget guys like Thurman, Spence, Crawford. You can't jump from fighting Karen level to those levels. That's cheating.

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                  • lopetego
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                    #10
                    He has Spence, Crawford and Thurman shaking in their Boots

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