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  • hugh grant
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    #31
    This fight should happen, but if one of them loses before fight happens what a wasted chance for them to have a great win on resume, and then no-one will want to see it.
    I mean if thurman beats spence, it's thurman we'd like too see against bud next

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    • rrayvez
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      #32
      Yeah we can base this discussion on previous sales but that’s not really how it works. The demand for the fight will trump whatever low Ppv numbered preceded it. Trinidad didn’t do great Ppv numbers and Oscar tried to use that to minimize Trinidad’s purse but due to the demand of the fight, it set a Ppv buy record. Golden boy tried to use this same argument with ggg but due to the demand of the fight, Canelo did his best Ppv buys of his career (other than the Floyd fight) vs ggg. There is a demand for this fight so the previous ppv numbers Crawford or even spence did (because he also isn't a big ppv draw) won't matter.
      Last edited by rrayvez; 01-03-2023, 01:23 PM.

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      • archiemoore1
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        #33
        Derek James always says he's just a trainer, that he doesn't get involved in the business side of things. He says i just get my guy ready, the rest is up to the promotors, etc. So now all of a sudden, he's discussing what he believes to be another fighter's worth, and figures and numbers, and what the market wants? This is how u know PBC doesn't want the fight. Derek James is a shill. He's just repeating what Al Haymon wants him to say. Because if he's just a trainer, as he likes to say, when its beneficial for him to say that, then he can't be the one who dictates what fight may or may not happen, unless someone is telling him what to say. That's so obvious, because he doesn't call any shots.
        Last edited by archiemoore1; 01-03-2023, 11:21 AM.

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        • Oregonian
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          #34
          Originally posted by The Conundrum

          BOOTS BOOTS BOOTS is the IBF mandatory challenger who Spence is DUCKING. Quack quack quack
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          Spence was planning on fighting Crawford and Crawford ducked so Spence should fight Boots.
          Unlike you Crawford guys, I’ll not defend Spence if he ducks Boots.

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          • Bullrider
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            #35
            Report says Crawford accepted no guaranteed money, but with transparency on how much the fight made. That's not so bad. I don't know the point of all these types of articles. I'm no fan of any fighter, but it became clear to me that from day one of negotiations which was early year to late year, it's not going to be held before the end of the year. It became clear they want it next year, except that they didn't make it clear to TC.

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            • wrecksracer
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              #36
              Crawford knows he has what Spence wants. There is only one path to undisputed. If Errol wants to play games like negotiating for a November fight when he's nowhere close to 147, Crawford can go ahead with another fight until Spence is serious.

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              • Brian T
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                #37
                Dereck James says, “If you see in his uneducated perspective of what he thought boxing is, he got the fight but he was the only winner, not the promoter.”

                Hmm...so who is Derek James to call TBC 'uneducated'?
                He is just a guy who was on duty when ESJ went to a nearest local gym to train.
                He 'lucked into the position that he sits in right now as a....trainer....not a manager, and not a promoter for sure.

                TBC was and is being put in a position to basically fight for free to have a shot at a once in a life-time boxing legacy...the first to do what 'HE' is trying to do, not ESJ or no one on his team, they are motivated by money, and that alone.

                Well, if TBC allows them to 'rob' him out of a reasonable and deserving percentage of financial proceeds generated by this 'possible' fight....then, God bless him, or shame on him, depending on which way the wind blows when and if the next round of negotiations starts.

                Transparency of 'fight expenses' is not ‘uneducated perspective’ of himself in a Spence Fight'.

                Spence does not need Derek James to be a manager or promoter...or even a trainer because as a fighter he was what he is before Derek James 'lucked' himself into the title of head trainer.

                Mr. James should stay in his lane, for sure, because 'he' does not posses the gift of gab, or the ability to make a coherent and valid point, especially about TBC, and the business aspects of this or any other fight.

                Just one 'FAN's' opinion.


                Last edited by Brian T; 01-03-2023, 12:50 PM.

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                • thack
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                  #38
                  This seems like two fighters ....I hate to say it ....afraid of each other.They are Turing into a right pair of idiots with their pointless bickering.......just fight or move on!

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                  • crimsonfalcon07
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                    #39
                    This sounds a lot like "we're planning on being even less reasonable this time and pricing ourselves out because we have no interest in making this fight."

                    Seriously, you're going to fault a prizefighter for making a fight that is financially beneficial to himself? And then use that as an excuse to offer even less if he comes back to negotiations?


                    ​​​​​​Sounds like "quack quack" TBH, as ****** as that Avanesyan fight was for the fans. If the promoter was ****** and lost money on it, that's on them, not on the fighter that they agreed to pay.

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                    • War Room
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MexicanFistology

                      Yet everything he said were facts. Even the writer of the article mentioned Terrence Crawford has never been a ticket seller lmao for the writer himself to mention that is even sadder on Terrence Crawford side
                      Every single person besides Spence fans that are scared he'll lose, want to see Crawford vs Spence.

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