Referee Admits to Rigging Fight For Pacquiao in Bizarre Interview

[Combat Talk Radio]

The winner was going to get a title shot.

And like I said, it wouldn't have mattered. He would have lost the title fight and been just as much a journeyman as he ended up being.

[Lupara]

And like I said, it wouldn't have mattered. He would have lost the title fight and been just as much a journeyman as he ended up being.

Hmm

We don't know that for sure, and regardless, what the ref did is some low down dirty $h!t

[Willie Pep 229]

And like I said, it wouldn't have mattered. He would have lost the title fight and been just as much a journeyman as he ended up being.

Yea but he could've been somebody, he could've been a contender. Now, let's face it, he's a bum.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yea but he could've been somebody, he could've been a contender. Now, let's face it, he's a bum.

Let's look at it this way.

Randall Bailey.

2012 he's matched up with Mike Jones, who was being pushed as THE GUY. Bailey had power, but had losses. Same style match up as here.

The fight was for vacant titles, but Arum booked it to where only Jones could win them, and Bailey didn't outright admit but basically said that everyone expected him to lose.

More importantly, Arum planned to book Jones, if he won, against then-rising star Pacquiao.

Bailey initially gets outworked but catches Jones late and gets a major upset stoppage.

Bailey asks for the Pacquiao shot that Jones would have gotten, Arum ghosts him.


That's exactly what Hussain would have been dealing with: shady promoter blocking success and still backing his guy. And worse, Jones and Bailey both would completely disappear from the business shortly after. I tried to track Jones down for the podcast and he's completely off the radar.

Remember, it took two robberies for Marquez to finally get his closures.

[Willie Pep 229]

Let's look at it this way.

Randall Bailey.

2012 he's matched up with Mike Jones, who was being pushed as THE GUY. Bailey had power, but had losses. Same style match up as here.

The fight was for vacant titles, but Arum booked it to where only Jones could win them, and Bailey didn't outright admit but basically said that everyone expected him to lose.

More importantly, Arum planned to book Jones, if he won, against then-rising star Pacquiao.

Bailey initially gets outworked but catches Jones late and gets a major upset stoppage.

Bailey asks for the Pacquiao shot that Jones would have gotten, Arum ghosts him.


That's exactly what Hussain would have been dealing with: shady promoter blocking success and still backing his guy. And worse, Jones and Bailey both would completely disappear from the business shortly after. I tried to track Jones down for the podcast and he's completely off the radar.

Remember, it took two robberies for Marquez to finally get his closures.

Wait . . . You realize my post was a parody of Marlon Brando from On the Waterfront.

My point being that even though you felt he could never have won the title at least he would have gotten a shot at it. "He could have been a contender." --> That would have been enough to make his career worth having --> so in a sense he still got jobbed out of his shot even if he couldn't have won the title.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Wait . . . You realize my post was a parody of Marlon Brando from On the Waterfront.

My point being that even though you felt he could never have won the title at least he would have gotten a shot at it. "He could have been a contender." --> That would have been enough to make his career worth having --> so in a sense he still got jobbed out of his shot even if he couldn't have won the title.

And my point is the same.

Fighters want to be treated fair more than anything, but "fair" for them means that if Fighter A is promised something and they beat Fighter A, they should get whatever Fighter A was promised.

That's not how the boxing business works.

Promoters do all sorts of things for the A-Side that they would never do for the B-Side. That's because the A-Side is the one who is ultimately selling the fight.

Fast forward and you start seeing fight negotiations hung up over random stuff like that. That's because in general, people especially on this site (not talking about you) don't understand that this changes the perception of why fights don't get made. It's not that "promoter is bad", it's that if it weren't for this guy (A-Side) selling tickets, you wouldn't have boxing anymore, because the other guy is never going to sell tickets.

With this situation Padilla is basically admitting that the promoter was treating Manny as the A-Side (rightfully so) and bottom line, he had to win it. Does it make it right? No. But had Hussain won, it wouldn't have mattered. He would not have gotten anywhere because that same promoter would have c*ck blocked him out of spite and blacklisted him. If anything, not getting the W might have extended his career. That's why I gave the example of Bailey/Jones because it would have gone the same way for the same reasons.

It's a shady business.

[hectari]

Carlos Padilla trying to take credit for Pacs rise, seems like a narcissistic story telling, like those old Italian guys who tell tall tales as if they were part of the mob when they never were. A lot of this stuff goes on, Padilla is just the only one dumb enough or braggadocios to admit to it not realizing he just soiled his legacy as a legendary ref. If Panama Lewis a known cheat never admit to the dirt he did.

In the NBA they had refs shaving points and helping teams win calling fouls or not calling penalties and that is the NBA a major league televised everywhere and watched by millions. Corruption is no joke in sports.

Ill say this though, Carlos Padilla was considered the Top Ref for you guys who are young and dont know much of boxing history, Padilla was considered the best ref at the time, he handled many big fights like Duran vs Hearns, Ali vs Frazier in Manilla. WBC doesnt even realize they put up an interview that hurts boxing as a whole and further makes people feel negative toward the sport.

[War Room]

Carlos Padilla trying to take credit for Pacs rise, seems like a narcissistic story telling.

Thats makes zero sense.

[paulf]

More importantly, Arum planned to book Jones, if he won, against then-rising star Pacquiao.

Bailey initially gets outworked but catches Jones late and gets a major upset stoppage.

Bailey asks for the Pacquiao shot that Jones would have gotten, Arum ghosts him.

Oh that's interesting - I didn't know Bailey's team actually tried to make that fight.

Arum wasn't gonna co-promote with Lou or anyone else at that point. He was keeping all the money and throwing Pacquiao peanuts.

[hectari]

Thats makes zero sense.

uh makes zero sense? The guy was ****ing smirking during the interview almost to BRAG if it wasnt for me Pacquiao wouldnt have got that title shot agianst Ledwaba. Dude is boasting look at the interview its as if he is taking credit for giving a long count and getting the ref to stop it, it makes perfect sense for a narcissistic individual.