Referee Admits to Rigging Fight For Pacquiao in Bizarre Interview

[paulf]

uh makes zero sense? The guy was ****ing smirking during the interview almost to BRAG if it wasnt for me Pacquiao wouldnt have got that title shot agianst Ledwaba. Dude is boasting look at the interview its as if he is taking credit for giving a long count and getting the ref to stop it, it makes perfect sense for a narcissistic individual.

If it wasn't for him, Pacquiao WOULDN'T have got the shot against Ledwaba. That's the point here.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Oh that's interesting - I didn't know Bailey's team actually tried to make that fight.

Arum wasn't gonna co-promote with Lou or anyone else at that point. He was keeping all the money and throwing Pacquiao peanuts.

According to Bailey, he was on the phone when his people reached out to Arum to get the Pacquiao fight - and Arum wasn't having it.

https://hannibalboxing.com/real-one-...ived-fighting/

His career was over before his final fight; Bailey dates its end as June 6, 2012, the night he beat Mike Jones for the IBF welterweight title. As Bailey understands it, had Jones won he would have been in line for a Pacquiao fight. With the upset, Bailey thought he won the Pacquiao sweepstakes.

That’s logical. Boxing doesn’t work that way.

A mutual friend reached out to Bob Arum about making Pacquiao–Bailey. “If you would’a heard the phone call,” chuckles Bailey, “[Arum] wanted to get off the phone so damn fast. And he was enraged.” Why the hostility? “Because of what happened with Mike Jones,” says Bailey, “After what happened that night, I was never gonna fight another Top Rank fighter.”

That’s why Bailey believes two careers ended that night. Jones fought once more and was knocked out. And Bailey wasn’t getting near another Top Rank fighter—not at his age, not with his power. He had one fight left with Lou DiBella, who “sold me down the drain to Al [Haymon].” In his next fight, Bailey lost a decision to Devon Alexander. Alexander was “nowhere in the picture for a title shot” but he called Bailey out, and so Bailey had to respond.

These are the experiences Bailey is glad to leave behind him.

Now, the only part of that I disagree with is discrediting Alexander. Devon was in his absolute prime and he became the IBF champion. That fight was for that belt (vacant). But there was no chance in hell that Bailey at that time was beating that version of Alexander. Bailey wanted the big payday and I don't blame him given who he beat, but let's be honest: if he had beaten Devon Alexander, there's no way promoters would ignore that. It would have completely changed history from what we got.

[War Room]

uh makes zero sense? The guy was ****ing smirking during the interview almost to BRAG if it wasnt for me Pacquiao wouldnt have got that title shot agianst Ledwaba. Dude is boasting look at the interview its as if he is taking credit for giving a long count and getting the ref to stop it, it makes perfect sense for a narcissistic individual.

He's obviously not taking credit for a successful careeer, are you on drugs? I know loads of Italians too, never seen any of them take credit for being in the mob either. It's pretty well known that you don't talk about it if you're in it.

[QueensburyRules]

Let's look at it this way.

Randall Bailey.

2012 he's matched up with Mike Jones, who was being pushed as THE GUY. Bailey had power, but had losses. Same style match up as here.

The fight was for vacant titles, but Arum booked it to where only Jones could win them, and Bailey didn't outright admit but basically said that everyone expected him to lose.

More importantly, Arum planned to book Jones, if he won, against then-rising star Pacquiao.

Bailey initially gets outworked but catches Jones late and gets a major upset stoppage.

Bailey asks for the Pacquiao shot that Jones would have gotten, Arum ghosts him.


That's exactly what Hussain would have been dealing with: shady promoter blocking success and still backing his guy. And worse, Jones and Bailey both would completely disappear from the business shortly after. I tried to track Jones down for the podcast and he's completely off the radar.

Remember, it took two robberies for Marquez to finally get his closures.

- - Remember it only took one robbery for BALCO Juan and Memo to finally rack up a win so they could ducked the lucrative World Wide Rematch in a Mexico City Bullring for a BALCO Juan career purse.

Mexicans love Manny, JCChavez, and Canelo but never took tepid Juan who used to train on his pissoir spritzers daily...Bad Breath!!!

[paulf]

According to Bailey, he was on the phone when his people reached out to Arum to get the Pacquiao fight - and Arum wasn't having it.

https://hannibalboxing.com/real-one-...ived-fighting/

Now, the only part of that I disagree with is discrediting Alexander. Devon was in his absolute prime and he became the IBF champion. That fight was for that belt (vacant). But there was no chance in hell that Bailey at that time was beating that version of Alexander. Bailey wanted the big payday and I don't blame him given who he beat, but let's be honest: if he had beaten Devon Alexander, there's no way promoters would ignore that. It would have completely changed history from what we got.

Yeah while I think everything they're saying is true - Bailey is kind of angling it to be a little more salacious than it was. Bradley beat Pac that night too - then Pac fought Marquez and Bradley fought Provodnikov - winner of those two fights fought each other. If Bailey had got the shot against Bradley to unify the titles, he probably wouldn't have made any more money than he did to fight Alexander. No where was it written Pacquiao was planning to fight Jones if he lost to Bradley.

And Alexander wasn't a mandatory - Bailey didn't have to take that fight. He took it because everyone on his team knew that punch on Jones was a miracle - Bailey was 37 and likely to lose to the next decent fighter he fought. He's sour he didn't get to cash out by being KO'd in two rounds by Pacquiao for more money.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Yeah while I think everything they're saying is true - Bailey is kind of angling it to be a little more salacious than it was. Bradley beat Pac that night too - then Pac fought Marquez and Bradley fought Provodnikov - winner of those two fights fought each other. If Bailey had got the shot against Bradley to unify the titles, he probably wouldn't have made any more money than he did to fight Alexander. No where was it written Pacquiao was planning to fight Jones if he lost to Bradley.

And Alexander wasn't a mandatory - Bailey didn't have to take that fight. He took it because everyone on his team knew that punch on Jones was a miracle - Bailey was 37 and likely to lose to the next decent fighter he fought. He's sour he didn't get to cash out by being KO'd in two rounds by Pacquiao for more money.

Arum was definitely working to feed Manny to Mike Jones.

Jones lost, so Bradley got the pony. And we saw what happened.

[paulf]

Arum was definitely working to feed Manny to Mike Jones.

Jones lost, so Bradley got the pony. And we saw what happened.

An aside - my favorite moment from that era was when Arum signed a completely washed Kermit Cintron and told the press Pacquiao was probably fighting Cintron next.

The backlash was terrible, and when Cintron looked like complete **** in his tuneup on FNF, Arum had to be like "I guess I'm not gonna get away with this" and immediately dropped Kermit.

[buge]

Exactly.

get out a stopwatch, or use your computer clock, and time it - Fury was up before 10 seconds

[Dubblechin]

get out a stopwatch, or use your computer clock, and time it - Fury was up before 10 seconds

He was up, and that's when the ref should've waved Wilder in. Not another eight to 10 seconds later. If he's up and he can go, restart the fight. The referee used to determine if a fighter could continue as he was counting. Now they spend more time asking them to "walk over there, now walk back to me, are you okay? are you sure you want to continue? where are you at?" than the guy spent on the floor.

It's laughable.

A guy goes down, you start the count, if he gets up, you either stop it or wipe the gloves and wave them together to continue fighting.

Like I said, in the last minute of the fourth round of Fury-Wilder III, 40+ seconds were spent with the referee either counting or asking Fury questions. And in the other 18 seconds, Wilder actually dropped him twice from punches.

Maybe spend less time asking questions. It's a fight. Not a quiz show.

If the guy can fight, let them fight. If he can't, stop it.

[hectari]

He's obviously not taking credit for a successful careeer, are you on drugs? I know loads of Italians too, never seen any of them take credit for being in the mob either. It's pretty well known that you don't talk about it if you're in it.

Bro Im Italian

Also when did I say he is taking credit for his career, im saying he is telling a story about a pivotal moment which in turn a way to say if it wasnt for me fixing the fight Pacquiqao wouldn't have gotten his big break, why else would he boast about fixing the fight with Hussein?

Why are you arguing over this?