Referee Admits to Rigging Fight For Pacquiao in Bizarre Interview

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    #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    That win could have changed Hussein's career and his life.
    It really would not have. The guy was terrible and caught the worst version of Manny Pacquiao. There was no Roach back then, Manny was all offense and very little defense. Look at the shot that caught him, it was like a fast pump jab and it had him cross-eyed.

    Hussein was bigger and stronger. That's all. But that only applied to the lower tier of the time. The only time he stepped up (Larios) he got schooled.

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      #42
      well damn.....

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        #43
        Originally posted by paulf
        Didn't see a thread about this - WBC posted this interview on their Youtube channel, then deleted it.

        Referee Carlos Padilla has admitted he gave Manny Pacquiao 18 seconds to get up after being dropped in a hometown fight.

        Before his days as a multiple-weight world champion, Pacquiao was an up-and-comer and was matched with Australian Nedal Hussein for a super-bantamweight title. And in the fourth round of their contest in the Philippines, Hussein put Pacquiao down with a big shot, forcing a ten-count from referee Padilla.

        However, the Filipino referee allowed Pacquiao as long as 18 seconds to get up after being dazed, and let the contest continue despite Hussein's protests. And over two decades later, the referee has admitted that he gave a long count after being told that it was an important bout for Pacquiao to win, as well as making other moves that hindered Hussein's ability to win.

        "Manny was not a world champion yet, he was only good in the Philippines,' Padilla said in a recent interview with the WBC's YouTube channel, which has now been made private. "That fight, I'm about to go and leave the following day and they told me 'Carlos, please - this is an important fight for Pacquiao, because the winner will have the chance to fight for the world championship'.

        “So, you know the opponent, Hussein, or whatever his name was. He is taller, younger, stronger, and a dirty fighter, managed by Jeff Fenech. So in the seventh round, I think [it was the fourth round], Manny got knocked down, I thought he was going to get up, but his eyes were cross-eyed.

        "I am Filipino, and everybody watching the fight is Filipino, so I prolonged the count. I know how to do it. When he got up, I told him, ‘Hey, are you okay?’ Still prolonging the fight. ‘Are you okay?’ ‘Okay, fight!’ and then Hussein……because Manny was not like Manny is now, he wasn’t trained by Freddie Roach yet, he holds on for his dear life, and the guy throws him, and he went down again. I said to the opponent, ‘Hey, you don’t do this.’ You know, I was prolonging the fight. ‘You don’t do that. Okay, judges, [point] deduction'."

        The bizarre interview saw Padilla laugh about declaring a cut from a headbutt as having come from a punch, which eventually saw the fight stopped in round 10, and Pacquiao being declared the winner. Hussein hit back at Padilla's story, posting on his Instagram story that "This putrid dog admitted to cheating me."​

        "Manny is still groaning and then [I said to Pacquiao] 'get up, are you OK?' And then because he is shorter he headbutted the other guy and there is a cut but I declared it a punch. If there is a headbutt you have to stop the fight and declare to the judges a point deduction, but I didn't do that, meaning the fight could continue. [The cut] is not really big - but I never got the doctor to check it [because] I want to see it serious."

        And he wasn't confident that Pacquiao would win on the scorecards even after his point deduction, telling his countryman that he had better land a stoppage. "I said 'better knock that guy out Manny, because we may be in trouble'," Padilla added. "The guy was strong."

        Padilla eventually had the doctor look at the cut and waved the fight off, handing Pacquiao a victory and setting him on a path to gold in multiple weight classes. Meanwhile, Hussein was never able to get his hands on a world title despite getting two opportunities. He ended up becoming a salesman in Australia, while Pacquiao is a multi-millionaire and political figure in his home country.



        https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxin...ating-28600268

        https://www.***************.net/2022...acquiao-twice/
        The KD count was slow but not egregiously slow; the point deduction was an egregious cheat.

        You kind of have to watch out for these oldtime non-fighter type guys remembering (referees, trainers, managers, promoters), when they get close to the grave they all start to sel***randize, inflating their importance and its effect in the fight game.

        But in this case of the point deduction, that was cheating.

        But also IMHO I didn't actually see him 'saving' PAC on the KD. His extended 'evaluation' of, (and count over), PAC didn't last any longer than most referees'. Especially showboaters like Lane and Steele. He really didn't hold the fight up that much.

        I suspect PAC MAN grabs and survives the round after any reasonably long 'mandatory eight count.'

        I think here, he is making himself more important than he was.

        Anyway isn't this the same guy who let Ali walk all over him in Ali-Frazier II. Holding and pulling Frazier's head into his chest for 12 rounds. Wonder if he ll ever speak about that particular performance. (Assuming I got the right guy, he was terrible in Ali-Frazier II.)

        Same guy?
        Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 11-30-2022, 01:58 PM.

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        • Boxfan83
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          #44
          Gotta love the Pinoy honesty. They are terrible liars.

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            #45
            For Christ's sake the word 'self-agrandize' has the word f a g mixed in the middle of it so the computer censored it.
            Last edited by Willie Pep 229; 11-30-2022, 01:59 PM.

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            • buddyr
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              #46
              When is Richard Steele going to admit fixing fights for Don King fighters

              Chavez vs Taylor
              Tyson vs Ruddock 1
              Keith Holmes vs Quincy Taylor (you can't even find this on youtube. If you've saw it in the 90s, you know what I'm talking about)

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                #47
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                Same schit Jack Reiss did in Fury-Wilder 1

                Instead Reiss gave him about 20 seconds to recover. Even kneeled down and yelled in his face to wake him up

                Exactly.

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                  #48
                  Wow, didn't know that, very interesting...

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Leicesterage

                    Include the time the ref was asking Manny if he was okay.

                    Don't know why people are ignoring the link I shared, it has perfect splicing of what he's saying.

                    When Manny got dropped to the time the referee restarted the action, like 18 or 19 seconds passed. Same thing happened in Wilder-Fury I, and the people who pointed it out were bashed on social media and were hammered with "it's a 10-count not 10 seconds."

                    Like Padilla said, the referees know what they're doing when they want to give a fighter more time. He plainly said what they do. The ref in the first Wilder-Fury fight followed those instructions to perfection.

                    When Fury got up, the ref said "walk over here, walk over there" ... and they say they do that to see if the fighter can continue, but the fighter is supposed to be ready to go when the ref finishes his count and the fighter is on his feet.

                    The referee isn't supposed to give the guy "another" 10 seconds to "prove" he can continue. If you do that, you're giving them 20 seconds to recover. (As Carlos admitted, they 'know' this.)

                    If he can't continue when he gets up, then the fight is supposed to be over. If the ref isn't sure, then restart the action and see if the fighter scoring the knockdown can finish him off.

                    This walking around and asking questions for an additional eight or nine seconds is an official trying to impact the outcome of a fight ... as Carlos admitted.

                    Hell, when Wilder dropped Fury in the third fight, the referee waited 20 seconds from the time Fury went down until he resumed the action after the first knockdown, and 21 seconds after Fury went down a second time and the referee told them to fight.

                    Wilder dropped Fury with a full minute left in round 4. But they were only cleared to fight for like 20 seconds in the final minute of that fourth round. The rest of the time the referee was counting or asking Fury questions.

                    At that rate, the Foreman-Frazier fight would've gone the full 15. (I'm being sarcastic). Just count, and if they get up, stop it or call the other boxer in and get the hell out of the way. Enough of this walk over here, walk over there, answer 20 questions bull.
                    Last edited by Dubblechin; 11-30-2022, 03:07 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Leicesterage

                      It really would not have. The guy was terrible and caught the worst version of Manny Pacquiao. There was no Roach back then, Manny was all offense and very little defense. Look at the shot that caught him, it was like a fast pump jab and it had him cross-eyed.

                      Hussein was bigger and stronger. That's all. But that only applied to the lower tier of the time. The only time he stepped up (Larios) he got schooled.
                      The winner was going to get a title shot.

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