How Detrimental is it for Canelo’s legacy moving Bivol Rematch from May to September?

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    #51
    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

    Teddy Atlas is worried that Canelo can win the rematch
    Teddy Atlas = Kiss of death

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      #52
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Your going off on a tangent a bit here. You said who wins first fight wins rematch or the 2nd fight? I replied both fights that pac lost he won rematch! Both fights Lewis lost, he won rematches also. Pac losing the 4th fight to jmm has got nothing to do with anything.
      Whoever is the greater fighter dictates who's likely to win rematch, so nel o most likely would beat Floyd in rematch as would Pac beat floyd in rematch most likely also.
      Your exact quote “Pac never lost a rematch in fact”. Straight up not true, Pac/Marquez 4. Do you dispute that? You can carry on with your ignorant bu!!shyte about rematches but the was absolutely nothing in the Canelo or especially the Pac fight that reasonably could be used as evidence that either rematch would have had a different outcome.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

        Actually I’m a fan of Canelo. A Canelo Hater is technically his fan too. You would know
        Fan? Do you still dress up in your pink leotards and matching lipstick before jerking it to your favorite sweaty Canelo poster?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Silence
          Isn't LHW between 168-175? Canelo can be even 169 lbs at weight-in for his speed. His fight night weight should be around 176 instead of 180+. I don't see why Canelo can't beat Bivol if he returns to his slick combination style and becomes a bit lighter. His stamina will be better too. He was frustrating against Bivol when he was in rope-a-dope mode.
          Did you even watch the first fight?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Silence

            Charlo is semi-retired. Also, Charlo is legacy fight only at 160 for WBC MW belt. It's useless fight at 168. Benavidez fight should give legacy to Canelo from "boogeyman department". So, beating Benavidez wouldn't make Canelo the GOAT.

            Bivol win boosts Canelo's legacy more than Benavidez+Charlo combined.
            Do you really think ginger has a chance against bivol? Or his team is depositing money in his bank to throw the fight?

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              #56
              Originally posted by just the facts

              You can carry on with your ignorant bu!!shyte about rematches but the was absolutely nothing in the Canelo or especially the Pac fight that reasonably could be used as evidence that either rematch would have had a different outcome.
              I think I've proved and shown to you, which you acknowledged anything can happen in a rematch. The one with best chance to win rematch is the one who learnt more from first fight or is the greater fighter.
              Floyd denying the world rematches meant he wanted to leave question marks and asterix!
              Last edited by hugh grant; 11-18-2022, 07:02 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by hugh grant

                I think I've proved and shown to you, which you acknowledged anything can happen in a rematch. The one with best chance to win rematch is the one who learnt more from first fight or is the greater fighter.
                Floyd denying the world rematches meant he wanted to leave question marks and asterix!
                For starters, you posted “Pac never lost a rematch in fact”. Well he has Pac/Marquez 4. Do you dispute that?

                There was nothing close about Floyd’s EASY wins over Canelo or especially Pac. Absolutely no need for a rematch in either fight. No public demand in either case and no promoter willing to lose money.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by just the facts

                  For starters, you posted “Pac never lost a rematch in fact”. Well he has Pac/Marquez 4. Do you dispute that?

                  There was nothing close about Floyd’s EASY wins over Canelo or especially Pac. Absolutely no need for a rematch in either fight. No public demand in either case and no promoter willing to lose money.
                  Pac never lost rematch, pac won 2 rematchas with jmm if not scorecard error and lost 4th fight, he actually gave someone 4 attempts which floyd didn't dare do. Pac wasn't obligated to give jmm a rematch. Which again proved anything can happen.
                  there was a s much need for floyd to give rematch as much as there was for Rahman and mcall to give lennox one, or pac to give barrera one. Floyd fans thought pac should give cotton a rematch at 154. We know floyd fans put absolutely no demands on floyd, and don't take you serious

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hugh grant

                    I think I've proved and shown to you, which you acknowledged anything can happen in a rematch. The one with best chance to win rematch is the one who learnt more from first fight or is the greater fighter.
                    Floyd denying the world rematches meant he wanted to leave question marks and asterix!
                    You need a controversial decision in order to have a rematch. Chino vs fraud, castillo vs fraud. Pac and ginger were outclassed. No rematch needed.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by garfios

                      You need a controversial decision in order to have a rematch. Chino vs fraud, castillo vs fraud. Pac and ginger were outclassed. No rematch needed.
                      Ha ha, lo l, pac v barrera wasn't controversial. Neither was Rahman koing lewis.
                      Or rematch as people would look forward to it. Floyd just bored audience in hope nobody wants to see rematch
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 11-18-2022, 07:47 PM.

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