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How Detrimental is it for Canelo’s legacy moving Bivol Rematch from May to September?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by sbbigmike View Post

    Bivol is boring ...

    Benavides and Charlo are the legacy fights, the type of fights we want to see twice...

    Canelo should've never even mentioned bivol post loss...bivol really ain't do shyt there, thank goodness the last two Canelos wasn't in with no killers
    Charlo is semi-retired. Also, Charlo is legacy fight only at 160 for WBC MW belt. It's useless fight at 168. Benavidez fight should give legacy to Canelo from "boogeyman department". So, beating Benavidez wouldn't make Canelo the GOAT.

    Bivol win boosts Canelo's legacy more than Benavidez+Charlo combined.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

      I don’t know how much boxing you’ve watched, but historically, there have been tons of rematches from duo to four series fights, and in those, fighters have changed styles. Did Marquez get dropped 3 times in the 1st round against PAC? Canelo doesn’t have a history to fight the way he did against Smith or Bivol before. He can easily drop that act of walking forward and just throwing barbaric shots. Only a dummy would think Canelo is going to bank on that again. As Atlas said, he’s worried that Canelo will throw more TRADITIONAL shots and add new feints. He detailed that Canelo figured out Bivol and will try new things
      Is there a drug he can get pass testing because he isn't going to do it naturally, or as I stated, push Bivol down and it is scored as a knockdown? That turns those 115-113 rigged cards in the first fight into a controversial SD for Canelo in the rematch. Yep, done with no tricks, all legit.

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      • #33
        Not detrimental at all.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hhh1200 View Post

          Is there a drug he can get pass testing because he isn't going to do it naturally, or as I stated, push Bivol down and it is scored as a knockdown? That turns those 115-113 rigged cards in the first fight into a controversial SD for Canelo in the rematch. Yep, done with no tricks, all legit.
          If Jean Pascal, Big Baby Miller, and Uzcategui are already scheduled for fights with their PED felonies would suggest that everyone is on stuff including Bivol and industry just stays quiet. That’s the benefit or luxury of non regulated sports. is anybody crying over those first 3 guys I mentioned?

          I’m super excited for the Bivol rematch. Everyone is going to tune in. It’s his path to greatness. For anyone truly believing Canelo can’t win would make Canelo’s win one of the greatest wins in history, or fans will cry that Bivol had an off night?
          Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 11-18-2022, 10:07 AM.

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          • #35
            He shouldn't be fighting Bivol AT ALL again, he's just gonna get his ass whipped a second time.

            A narcissist like Cannoli will only learn through pain and having his spirit broken. He's going to get Buck Broken this time.
            Last edited by TheIronMike; 11-18-2022, 10:22 AM.
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            • #36
              Ginger gonna get beat worse the second time, even though it isnt warranted. But the scorecards will reflect otherwise like last time...SHOULD be fighting everyome at 168 and 160 though
              Last edited by El_Mero; 11-18-2022, 12:19 PM.

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              • #37
                It doesn't matter when. If we wins (he won't) he will put a shine on his legacy that will be spoken of for many years. It's got to be a real win though. He's got to come in and do, I don't know what, to get through Bivols's guard and put a hurt on him over 12 rounds or knock him out.

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                • #38
                  If his hand is healed better by december then its not detrimental but advantageous

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

                    I don’t know how much boxing you’ve watched, but historically, there have been tons of rematches from duo to four series fights, and in those, fighters have changed styles. Did Marquez get dropped 3 times in the 1st round against PAC? Canelo doesn’t have a history to fight the way he did against Smith or Bivol before. He can easily drop that act of walking forward and just throwing barbaric shots. Only a dummy would think Canelo is going to bank on that again. As Atlas said, he’s worried that Canelo will throw more TRADITIONAL shots and add new feints. He detailed that Canelo figured out Bivol and will try new things
                    This is a combination of lies, half truths and wishful thinking. Historically a rematch yields the same result at an alarming rate. When the winner of the first fight wins dominately (crooked scorecards be damned), he wins the rematch at an astronomical rate. Pac/Marquez is a garbage example. The first three fights were very close. A lot of people think Marquez won the third fight.

                    I’ll post it again. Bivol EASILY beat Canelo in the first fight (again, crooked scorecards be damned) by great defense, great overall boxing skill and an unbelievable control of distance. The way to offset this is with fast feet and/or reach. Canelo has neither. Bad style matchup. Unless Bivol suddenly ages at an alarming rate, Canelo flat out can’t beat him (once more, crooked scorecards be damned).

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by just the facts View Post

                      Historically a rematch yields the same result at an alarming rate. When the winner of the first fight wins dominately (crooked scorecards be damned), he wins the rematch at an astronomical rate. Pac/Marquez is a garbage example. The first three fights were very close. A lot of people think Marquez won the third fight.
                      Not neccesarrily. If the greater fighter loses first fight, they got a good chance in rematch. Joe Louis best schmelling didnt he? SRR best turpin didn't he? Hopkins best RJJ. SRL beat Duran didn't he in rematch? Pac best morales and bradley didn't he? Pac s never lost rematch in fact! Ali best frasier in rematch, lennox beat rahman/mcoll.
                      So you are actually being either economical with truth at best or outright lying.Let's face it, floyd s fans is the only one who used excuses to not give rematches
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 11-18-2022, 01:49 PM.
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