How Detrimental is it for Canelo’s legacy moving Bivol Rematch from May to September?

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  • Silence
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    #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    Not neccesarrily. If the greater fighter loses first fight, they got a good chance in rematch. Joe Louis best schmelling didnt he? SRR best turpin didn't he? Hopkins best RJJ. SRL beat Duran didn't he in rematch? Pac best morales and bradley didn't he? Pac s never lost rematch in fact! Ali best frasier in rematch, lennox beat rahman/mcoll.
    So you are actually being either economical with truth at best or outright lying.Let's face it, floyd s fans is the only one who used excuses to not give rematches
    He is an attention wh0re idiot who imitates my quotes in his posts. Never mind him.

    I actually think Canelo has a good chance against Bivol in the rematch. Unless we see a brawler Canelo who walking on his opponents and throwing power punches with his right like a barbarian.

    He should return to his pre-Kovalev style. His haters like Teddy Atlas are afraid of his better performance in the rematch.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #42
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Not neccesarrily. If the greater fighter loses first fight, they got a good chance in rematch. Joe Louis best schmelling didnt he? SRR best turpin didn't he? Hopkins best RJJ. SRL beat Duran didn't he in rematch? Pac best morales and bradley didn't he? Pac s never lost rematch in fact! Ali best frasier in rematch, lennox beat rahman/mcoll.
      So you are actually being either economical with truth at best or outright lying.Let's face it, floyd s fans is the only one who used excuses to not give rematches
      Damn I don’t think that poster could ever return to a post like yours. Dude got drilled with facts and circumstances. It’s unfortunate that after Castillo, Floyd did catchweights with Mexican P4Ps. I remember once stating that LaMotta and Robinson or Duran and SRL yielded different results at different weights from their series. Canelo looked a tad bloated at 175 compared to his 168 weighs ins. Maybe Canelo should consider 172 on the scales? Though I think Canelo isn’t shaving más weight at the 175 scale. He looked to have been 180 in the ring. Bivol can rehydrate to 190 and is still super fast on fight night. Canelo needs to play speed with speed in my opinion. He was already good evading many of Bivol’s assaults.

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      • just the facts
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        #43
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Not neccesarrily. If the greater fighter loses first fight, they got a good chance in rematch. Joe Louis best schmelling didnt he? SRR best turpin didn't he? Hopkins best RJJ. SRL beat Duran didn't he in rematch? Pac best morales and bradley didn't he? Pac s never lost rematch in fact! Ali best frasier in rematch, lennox beat rahman/mcoll.
        So you are actually being either economical with truth at best or outright lying.Let's face it, floyd s fans is the only one who used excuses to not give rematches
        There are exceptions of course but for every exception there are 20x the winner stays the same. Who won Pac/Marquez 4? So much for your hero never losing a rematch………..

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          #44
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

          Damn I don’t think that poster could ever return to a post like yours. Dude got drilled with facts and circumstances. It’s unfortunate that after Castillo, Floyd did catchweights with Mexican P4Ps. I remember once stating that LaMotta and Robinson or Duran and SRL yielded different results at different weights from their series. Canelo looked a tad bloated at 175 compared to his 168 weighs ins. Maybe Canelo should consider 172 on the scales? Though I think Canelo isn’t shaving más weight at the 175 scale. He looked to have been 180 in the ring. Bivol can rehydrate to 190 and is still super fast on fight night. Canelo needs to play speed with speed in my opinion. He was already good evading many of Bivol’s assaults.
          I see your thirst for Canelo’s semen hasn’t diminished.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Silence

            He is an attention wh0re idiot who imitates my quotes in his posts. Never mind him.

            I actually think Canelo has a good chance against Bivol in the rematch. Unless we see a brawler Canelo who walking on his opponents and throwing power punches with his right like a barbarian.

            He should return to his pre-Kovalev style. His haters like Teddy Atlas are afraid of his better performance in the rematch.
            Not only are you an idiot but a liar as well.

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              #46
              Isn't LHW between 168-175? Canelo can be even 169 lbs at weight-in for his speed. His fight night weight should be around 176 instead of 180+. I don't see why Canelo can't beat Bivol if he returns to his slick combination style and becomes a bit lighter. His stamina will be better too. He was frustrating against Bivol when he was in rope-a-dope mode.
              Last edited by Silence; 11-18-2022, 02:48 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by just the facts

                I see your thirst for Canelo’s semen hasn’t diminished.
                Actually I’m a fan of Canelo. A Canelo Hater is technically his fan too. You would know

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by just the facts

                  There are exceptions of course but for every exception there are 20x the winner stays the same. Who won Pac/Marquez 4? So much for your hero never losing a rematch………..
                  Your going off on a tangent a bit here. You said who wins first fight wins rematch or the 2nd fight? I replied both fights that pac lost he won rematch! Both fights Lewis lost, he won rematches also. Pac losing the 4th fight to jmm has got nothing to do with anything.
                  Whoever is the greater fighter dictates who's likely to win rematch, so nel o most likely would beat Floyd in rematch as would Pac beat floyd in rematch most likely also.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 11-18-2022, 05:16 PM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                    Teddy Atlas is worried that Canelo can win the rematch
                    Going by the scorecards in tge Bivol fight Nelo can definitely eek out a win.
                    whether it will be a legit win is another story.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                      Not detrimental at all IMO... nor would it be detrimental to not fight him again at all. The 'aging Bivol' reason makes no sense however - I think Dmitry is a little younger than Canelo and certainly has less pro-miles on his clock and has taken considerably less damage over the years given his more defensive style. Not seeing how delaying it improves Canelo's chances in that respect - although seeing how his hand's responded to surgery by taking a more winnable fight first makes sense I guess.

                      Honestly though not caring deeply about a rematch here - the only one I want to see is Bivol vs Beterbiev - although as the TS points out it seems like that ain't happening any time soon.
                      I read that all his surgery was removing callouses and its more off a cpl week type of recovery.
                      Not sure how accurate that is but hope if he does take a loss he doesn't use his hand as an excuse.
                      In any event Nelo can definitely beat Bivol going by the scorecards in their last fight.
                      Whether it be legit or not well...

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