Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Really Don't Think It'll Damage My Legacy If Spence Fight Doesn't Happen

[SteelFist01]

I like Bud Crawford, but if you fast forward 10, 20, and 30 years from now, Bud is not going to have a "legacy". No one except boxing historians will know who he is. Ali is not remembered because he fought La Mar Clark or Tony Esperti, or even Duke Sabadong. He is remembered because he fought Frazier, Foreman, and a murderer's row of the top heavyweights of his generation. The same can be said for Ray Leonard, Hagler, Ray Robinson, and all the other greats. Bud needs at least one legacy-defining fight to be remembered. Win or lose, with his resume Bud will not be remembered at all in a few years. That will be unfortunate because he is a once-in-a-generation talent who failed to challenge himself.

Very well said. I am a big Crawford fan, he's been one of my favorite fighters ever since I saw him beat Gamboa, and I am also a fan of Spence, so I really don't care who's at fault, as I think that both (or more specifically their management) are guilty of dragging their feet with regards to the fight getting made. I understand that boxing is a business, and it makes sense to 'marinate' the fight to maximize profits, especially when it comes to the general public (casuals). But, I really hope that the powers that be won't 'marinate' this fight for too long, like the Mayweather- Pacquiao fight, which obviously made a **** ton of money, but was nothing more than a glorified sparring session. And, the thing is that a lot of casual fans were well aware of who Floyd and Manny were, yet I'd be shocked if most people are aware of who Terrence and Errol are, despite their brilliance in the ring. Long story short, not only do both fighters need the fight for their individual legacies, but the sport of boxing needs this fight for relevancy, especially in this day and age when the most well known 'boxers' are more known for their social media presence than for their in ring accomplishments.

[LAchargers373]

I think he was just making a point that one fight not happening won't harm his legacy much because he is still a 3 division champ, former undisputed champ and one of the top p4p fighters of his era.

If the fight happens (and he wins) it would enhance his legacy and he acknowledges that. Imo the only way this fight not happening would really harm his legacy was if it was a clear duck by him. I don't think that is the case at the moment because I haven't seen Crawford making any crazy demands.

He not a top p4p this era he has beaten NOBODY. Talk about a dud duckFord “legacy”?? A legacy of burns indongo Amir khan shoe horn? Ur kidding right? He wants to be in the same sentence as manny but dud ducked mikey garcia danny garcia josh taylor Regis prograis…he claims he “unified” LW but he ducked all legit competition at that weight beat up bums then moved up before defending vs anyone good. At 140 he didn’t go near dsg or mikey all were under top rank. Didn’t go near dsg at 147 either. Probably because danny beat him in the amateurs they went 1-1. Now imagine manny Pacquaio and Floyd came up to 147 and skipped corralles and JMM morales and Barrera at LW and tried to claim they were p4p anything. Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it. Well that’s exactly what delusional dud is trying to feed people lol. Thing is I think he actually believes it. In his mind beating Julius indongo was like manny pacquaio defeating morales. He doesn’t understand that’s there’s levels to this lol

[ELPacman]

I hate when guys talk that they don't need to face so and so as it will not damage their legacy. How the hell can you figure that when the entire world was calling for the fight and you never made it happen? That is CLEARLY damaging your legacy. If they believe it will not, that is clearly on their own and will not hold against anyone else who wants to judge.

The boxing historians and people who will reflect back on those accomplishments will always bring it up that he had a key opponent during his career, at his weight class, both at the highest level and neither fought each other. A forever asterisk next to their resume.

[The Common Man]

Let's examine Bud Crawford's resume, shall we?

38-0, 29 KOs
Won world titles in 3 divisions
1st 4-belt undisputed champion at 140 in history
16-0 in world title bouts

All that says 1st ballot Hall of Famer without Errol Spence....and that's coming from a long time IBHOF voter.

[Apollo7]

In an era where it's easier to manipulate "achivements" no, it doesn't mean as much as it did yesteryear.

Crawford will not be remembered at all until he has signature wins or fights.

Who cares who's being introduced as what? Of course when introducing a champion, people are going to use lofty words. A lot of those guys out there, nobody gives a crap. When someone like Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Ali, etc enter a room or their name is mentioned =---> people KNOW. They don't need a list of accoldaes to recognize them. As far as the boxing community, pundits, and history books are concerned, Crawford is just another champ in a time of everybody and their mother got a belt.

Like I said before, fighters like Calzaghe who never dared to be great - he's already forgotten. I've mentioned his name to a lot of younger British men and they have no idea who I'm talking about.

Not every fighter becomes a crossover star like Floyd, DLH etc but would people know who they are if they had never won championships? Would they have been able to get big fights without first getting belts? You mention Calzaghe but his legacy is his accolades. Without his belts, his legacy is greatly diminished.

[sicko]

this is complete BS to the Fullest

Bud just fades away and become completely forgotten and won't be missed at all while Spence moves up and try to become World Champ at 154 and maybe even as high as 160

Bud is not a All Time Great off becoming Undisputed at 140 vs the Likes of Indongo, Postol and whoever else I can't even remember without Boxrec that is complete BS from Fanboys those guys went on to do nothing but lose more after losing to Bud

[Apollo7]

He not a top p4p this era he has beaten NOBODY. Talk about a dud duckFord “legacy”?? A legacy of burns indongo Amir khan shoe horn? Ur kidding right? He wants to be in the same sentence as manny but dud ducked mikey garcia danny garcia josh taylor Regis prograis…he claims he “unified” LW but he ducked all legit competition at that weight beat up bums then moved up before defending vs anyone good. At 140 he didn’t go near dsg or mikey all were under top rank. Didn’t go near dsg at 147 either. Probably because danny beat him in the amateurs they went 1-1. Now imagine manny Pacquaio and Floyd came up to 147 and skipped corralles and JMM morales and Barrera at LW and tried to claim they were p4p anything. Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it. Well that’s exactly what delusional dud is trying to feed people lol. Thing is I think he actually believes it. In his mind beating Julius indongo was like manny pacquaio defeating morales. He doesn’t understand that’s there’s levels to this lol

He may not be in your p4p list but it's a fact that he is in most. No he is obviously not in Floyd or Manny's league as far as legacy goes but a former undisputed champ, 3 division champ, highly ranked p4p is more than most achieve so I don't think you can say he has no legacy. As far as ducking goes, there are at least 2 sides to every story and I'm sure Crawford would claim he didn't duck anyone. Were any of those guys desperate to fight him? Did he turn down offers? I don't know and tbh I don't have the time or energy to try to figure out who's supposedly ducked who (if anyone).

[b Murphington]

Crawford - “you know. You know. You know. You know. You know.”

[archiemoore1]

PBC is company, that only cares about maximizing profit and protecting their product at all costs. So they can care less about legacy. They'll fu.k up a boxers legacy in a minute if it protects their bottom line. Thats sad for boxing because they're going to block a lot of fights now and down the road from ever happening, if the fight doesn't meet all their own objectives. As a fan, ur just like a voter. U can make ur voices heard and create change by not supporting cards of any promotional outfit that u feel is blocking fights that fans wanna see made. Of course they'll say they aren't blocking the fight but of course they are. Use ur common sense. Don't support their platform and don't buy their PPV's and don't go to their events and they'll have to stop this BS cheating the fans and giving us garbage filler cards and mismatches

[Bronx2245]

"Crawford: I Really Don't Think It'll Damage My Legacy If Spence Fight Doesn't Happen"

This statement suggests that Crawford's not really pushing to fight Spence the way he claims to be. If a fighter really wants a particular opponent, he expresses that and that alone. He doesn't throw in a disclaimer that he doesn't really need the fight.

We should've probably seen this a long time ago...

Terence Crawford: Manny Pacquiao Must Fight Me at 140!

Crawford has no problem with facing Pacquiao but cautions that - "It will be at 140."

"If Bob Arum wants that fight and my coaches want that fight, that's something we'll talk about later. I let my coaches handle that. I am a fighter and I will fight anybody. I'm happy and I'm about to go on vacation. We not worried about Manny Pacquiao right now."

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-...me-140--107021

I was a fan of his back then, but not anymore! He really just doesn't get it!!!