Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Really Don't Think It'll Damage My Legacy If Spence Fight Doesn't Happen

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  • Apollo7
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    #131
    Originally posted by War Room

    Janibek is an email champ, get it? Dude sucks.



    Calzaghe has a legacy lol?
    It's relatively. Calzaghe has a legacy compared to people who achieved less in boxing

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      #132
      Originally posted by Apollo7

      I don't see why he would enter negotiations with Spence if he didn't want to fight him. That doesn't make much sense. Seems to me he just has his terms which team Spence wouldn't meet. Having a back up plan makes sense.
      It's called "using Spence's name to convince BLK Prime to pay more money".

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        #133
        Originally posted by Apollo7

        It's relatively. Calzaghe has a legacy compared to people who achieved less in boxing
        Eh, history has forgotten Joe Calzaghe. His own people are forgetting him and he's just turned 50.

        Calzaghe hunkered down in a dead division for literally 95% of his career. Finally moved up and dared to be great when the top dogs were extremely damaged goods and/or exceptionally long in the tooth. I guess you could call it a legacy (but more like dogfood), whatever you like.

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          #134
          Originally posted by Leicesterage

          It's called "using Spence's name to convince BLK Prime to pay more money".
          Maybe but apparently he agreed to take the smaller split but wanted transparency to make sure gets what he should. Then you hear about Haymon doesn't respect him as a business man etc. Unless you were involved in negotiations and know all the details, I don't see how you can be so sure about which side (if any) is ducking.

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            #135
            Originally posted by War Room

            Eh, history has forgotten Joe Calzaghe. His own people are forgetting him and he's just turned 50.

            Calzaghe hunkered down in a dead division for literally 95% of his career. Finally moved up and dared to be great when the top dogs were extremely damaged goods and/or exceptionally long in the tooth. I guess you could call it a legacy (but more like dogfood), whatever you like.
            Well you seem to remember him. Of course his legacy could have been greater if he beat some better names but imo it's the overall body of work that creates your legacy, including championships.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Apollo7

              Well you seem to remember him. Of course his legacy could have been greater if he beat some better names but imo it's the overall body of work that creates your legacy, including championships.
              I remember him because boxing runs deep in my veins. I'm not Joe the plumber regarding boxing.

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                #137
                Originally posted by War Room

                I remember him because boxing runs deep in my veins. I'm not Joe the plumber regarding boxing.
                And the only person who will care about Crawford Spence in a decade will be guys like us, big fans.

                As I have said elsewhere. Crawford is not a 23 year old trying to prove himself. If Haymon really wanted the fight he'd have given Bud a guarantee, talked to the backers Crawford had, etc. What he did was treat Crawford like a nobody. Spence isn't getting screwed over, he is a PBC in house fighter.

                Crawford is 35 and has a few years left in his prime. He SHOULD be taking the biggest money he can get. It is a no brainer. He was willing to take less than he is worth to fight Spence, but he wasn't willing to get screwed. Respect the dude.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee

                  And the only person who will care about Crawford Spence in a decade will be guys like us, big fans.

                  As I have said elsewhere. Crawford is not a 23 year old trying to prove himself. If Haymon really wanted the fight he'd have given Bud a guarantee, talked to the backers Crawford had, etc. What he did was treat Crawford like a nobody. Spence isn't getting screwed over, he is a PBC in house fighter.

                  Crawford is 35 and has a few years left in his prime. He SHOULD be taking the biggest money he can get. It is a no brainer. He was willing to take less than he is worth to fight Spence, but he wasn't willing to get screwed. Respect the dude.
                  I'm supporting Crawford against Spence, I was talking to the other guy about Calzaghe.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Apollo7

                    Maybe but apparently he agreed to take the smaller split but wanted transparency to make sure gets what he should.
                    And Spence already exposed that they agreed to give him that.

                    I also shared the Black Sports Online video exposing the real issue. I even just bumped it to help you out.

                    The fight was DONE and just needed Crawford to sign it. They gave him everything (other than split) that he wanted. The only catch is that the fight had to happen in January because of Crawford's delays and refusing to accept B-Side. It was too late to fight in 2022 because of him.

                    The reason Crawford walked is that he refused to fight beyond 2022.

                    SO...he used Spence's name to help his negotiations with Avanesyan a month after Spence called him out. Which is bad faith.
                    Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 11-18-2022, 06:20 PM.

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