Lomachenko is going to beat Haney

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  • Mexican_Puppet
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    Lomachenko is going to beat Haney

    People is overrating Haney too much.

    ​​​​​Champions get respect when they do something special.

    Yeah, he has all the belts, but only he beat Kambosssos, and with all the respect, this guy is a very very beatable guy to most of the top-10 in the division, he is a very pretty average champion.


    The point is.


    Jojo Díaz was able to land 140 punches vs Haneu
    Haney.

    Haney 164.


    That was a clear win to Haney but he is not that hard to punch.

    Díaz is another B clases fighter that was totally outboxed and outworked against Zepeda.

    Lomachenko is old? Yes. And?

    Still being better fighter than Díaz, Kambosssos, etc.

    He is faster than Díaz, smarter than Loma.


    Haney is a very good fighter too but it s not the monster that people is creating.

    He is not the 30% of what Floyd was.


    The guy has a very good jab, proved jab? Yes, proved against B clases fighters without the skills of Loma.


    Haney is too básic for a guy like Loma.

    He repeat the same movements, 1-2, most of the times.

    Loma will school this guy.


    The blueprint to beat Loma is not what Haney has.

    There are two ways to beat Loma.

    1. Being a great pressure fighter with good chin, awkward style, body punches and a great workrate like Salido. Actually Cruz has a similar style, but more compact than Salido.


    2. Being a Big, taller, excelente counterpuncher with Big power like Teofimo, explosive style with power in both hands, that Ortiz guy has a little of this.


    Lomachenko is very familiar with the style of Haney, he beat that style for years in amateurs.


    Haney pillow hands and style is not enough to beat Loma.


    Last edited by Mexican_Puppet; 11-01-2022, 11:25 AM.
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    #2
    Haney is overrated but he's a huge lightweight. Loma is slowing and too small for the division. Tough call

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    • Mexican_Puppet
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      #3
      Originally posted by 4truth
      Haney is overrated but he's a huge lightweight. Loma is slowing and too small for the division. Tough call
      He is huge, but does not have good power.

      Loma is a very slow starter and he is very caution when his rival has great power, he is a little timid.

      Haney is huge but he is predectible, never faced a guy like Loma, Loma fought a Lot of times against better boxers than Haney in amateur.

      I see Haney 1-2 like the door to Loma body punches and counters.

      Haney has the perfect style to Loma angles.

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        #4
        Originally posted by 4truth
        Haney is overrated but he's a huge lightweight. Loma is slowing and too small for the division. Tough call
        How is Haney overrated?

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          #5
          Ive been picking Haney to beat Loma before Loma pulled the shenanigans.

          While I do believe Loma will be much better his next fight, I think Haney realizes this and will not get too comfortable.

          I believe Haney wins a UD.

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          • Mexican_Puppet
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            #6
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            How is Haney overrated?
            People is talking like he is a monster than beat all the better guys in 135-140.

            His best wins are against a very shot Linares, Jojo Díaz ( B class fighter) and another B class fighter and very smaller than him, Kambosssos.

            I mean, Bam Rodríguez beat way better champs like Cuadras and Sor Rungvisai and has less hype.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet

              People is talking like he is a monster than beat all the better guys in 135-140.

              His best wins are against a very shot Linares, Jojo Díaz ( B class fighter) and another B class fighter and very smaller than him, Kambosssos.

              I mean, Bam Rodríguez beat way better champs like Cuadras and Sor Rungvisai and has less hype.
              Where? All the guys at 135 avoided him. Not because he hits hard, but because hes fast, long arms, athletic, and can use those attributes to box and move to a win.

              Dude, you cant just mention his resume without being honest about the above. Loma, Teo, Ryan and Tank want none if this dude. At least Kambosos stepped up.

              Bam has a better resume because those dudes werent afraid to fight him. ( Bam is also a f-cking great fighter lets be clear).

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              • Mexican_Puppet
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                #8
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Where? All the guys at 135 avoided him. Not because he hits hard, but because hes fast, long arms, athletic, and can use those attributes to box and move to a win.

                Dude, you cant just mention his resume without being honest about the above. Loma, Teo, Ryan and Tank want none if this dude. At least Kambosos stepped up.

                Bam has a better resume because those dudes werent afraid to fight him. ( Bam is also a f-cking great fighter lets be clear).
                I don't know if the others guys ducked him, I dont care about stories because all the actual boxing works like this.

                I'm talking about what fans say about him vs the other top fighters in 135-140.

                At the moment his resume is pretty average and never was tested against a real elite fighter. If that its because he was ducked, ok, but it does not matter, he lacks of experience against great fighters.

                I mean, Isaac Cruz can, perfectly, beat Díaz, Kambosssos and a shot Linares.

                My point is, what Haney did, is not really hard or special for most of the other top fighters in the division

                I think his style is perfect to Loma, Loma likes this kind of style.
                Last edited by Mexican_Puppet; 11-01-2022, 11:49 AM.

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                  #9
                  I won't predict anything this early. But many posters have said their piece: Loma is the underdog in the fight. We'll soon see the result.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    How is Haney overrated?
                    Some have him the best in the division because he has all the belts. He has beaten Kambosos.

                    He has an excellent jab but no power and no inside game i do not think that makes him the best in the division nor does it bode well for him at 140 or 147.

                    Overrated is a weird term. Certainly everyone doesn't overrate him but some I think do.

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