Comments Thread For: Photos: Jake Paul Drops, Decisions Anderson Silva in Tough Test

[IronDanHamza]

All rules aside. Hand to hand mutual combat without weapons: Jake Paul or Anderson Silva?

Come on Dan. You're like 60 years old. Shame on you trying to play semantics and not understand what I'm saying here

Anderson Silva.

I just don't understand this "real fight" logic because an MMA fight isn't a "real" fight either because there's about 100 or so rules in it.

[IronDanHamza]

True. One is hell of a lot closer to being "real" than the other though.

Obviously in a street situation, if theres sucker punches, weapons, drugs/alcohol, multiple people etc involved, all bets are off. If its an unarmed 1vs1 fight? the MMA guy is going to be heavily favoured for a reason.

I don't dispute that but how can something be considered not be a "real" fight because there's rules and then the other one be considered "real" that also has rules?

The premise of a fight being "real" is there's no rules.

In MMA you can't even throw kicks when they're on the floor, you can't throw knees to the head when they're on the floor, you can't even grab the cage You can't throw downward elbows, you can't grab the shorts/gloves, you can't have your fist open where your fingers are showing and many more.

That doesn't sound like a "real" fight to me.

[Chollo Vista]

Anderson Silva.

I just don't understand this "real fight" logic because an MMA isn't a "real" fight either because there's about 100 or so rules in it.

LMAO ok man. You can't make the blind see

[TMLT87]

I don't dispute that but how can something be considered not be a "real" fight because there's rules and then the other one be considered "real" that also has rules?

The premise of a fight being "real" is there's no rules.

In MMA you can't even throw kicks when they're on the floor, you can't throw knees to the head when they're on the floor, you can't even grab the cage You can't throw downward elbows, you can't grab the shorts/gloves, you can't have your fist open where your fingers are showing and many more.

That doesn't sound like a "real" fight to me.

You can actually still knee to the head of a grounded opponent in One FC, and it was allowed in Pride FC which was arguably the no1 MMA org for close to a decade.

Tbh though, how much of those things are really likely to change the outcome of a fight anyway? if a guy can **** you up under MMA rules hes probably going to **** you up everywhere, and no amount of grabbing his shorts or trying to bite him is going to change that. Not to mention he is then allowed to do all those things as well. A lot of stuff (headbutts, eye gouges, biting, smashing someones head off the ground etc) would mostly benefit whoever has the wrestling skills to establish a top control position.

[Chollo Vista]

Anderson Silva.

I just don't understand this "real fight" logic because an MMA fight isn't a "real" fight either because there's about 100 or so rules in it.

https://www.ufc.com/unified-rules-mixed-martial-arts

Here's the rules right here. Where did you get 100? Let's play semantics

I've been in almost 100 or so fights in my lifetime and the list of "UFC rules" has never happened to me

But the fact that you said Anderson Silva tells me you know what I'm talking about

[SplitSecond]

You can actually still knee to the head of a grounded opponent in One FC, and it was allowed in Pride FC which was arguably the no1 MMA org for close to a decade.

Tbh though, how much of those things are really likely to change the outcome of a fight anyway? if a guy can **** you up under MMA rules hes probably going to **** you up everywhere, and no amount of grabbing his shorts or trying to bite him is going to change that. Not to mention he is then allowed to do all those things as well. A lot of stuff (headbutts, eye gouges, biting, smashing someones head off the ground etc) would mostly benefit whoever has the wrestling skills to establish a top control position.

McTapper got a warning for knee to Khabib’s head, if he commited to that he could’ve ended Khabs right there with a knee square to the top of the head as Khabs sprawled over him. Mayorga KO’d that one dude with a single knee to the spine while in a grapple, game over. Can’t remember who and where, probably Pride. Guy got KO’d with a 12-6 elbow straight to the spine/base of the back of the neck, as the guy was attempting a takedown. That Spinal Tap seems like a good game changer.

[Boro]

You dumb b1tch I've already fought in fair street fights. Plenty of them. Shut your ****** ass up

You literally said you were a child as I said your goofy little "I'll fight you on the playground" isn't the same as a street fight and even if it was as an adult, it isn't the rules it's the exception therefore irrelevant in the grand scheme of this "conversation".

And it's beyond funny to call someone a bítch that you wouldn't have the balls to in real life, you internet goofies are funny to me.

[TMLT87]

McTapper got a warning for knee to Khabib’s head, if he commited to that he could’ve ended Khabs right there with a knee square to the top of the head as Khabs sprawled over him. Mayorga KO’d that one dude with a single knee to the spine while in a grapple, game over. Can’t remember who and where, probably Pride. Guy got KO’d with a 12-6 elbow straight to the spine/base of the back of the neck, as the guy was attempting a takedown. That Spinal Tap seems like a good game changer.

Exceptions not the rule though. Like how reliable a strategy is "well i'll defend a takedown by landing a knee to their head"? i'm not saying it cant happen but its low percentage.

Remember most of this **** was legal in the early UFCs and a lot of other NHB competition as well and it didnt really change anything. Little Royce with his ultra one dimensional grappling game managed to survive all that **** to keep winning. Severn and Coleman won with their basic one dimensional wrestling skills in that environment too. And by modern MMA standards they're all absolute bums so if they could handle 12-6 elbows, headbutts, kicks/stomps/knees to grounded opponents etc I think todays fighters could too.

[Chollo Vista]

You literally said you were a child as I said your goofy little "I'll fight you on the playground" isn't the same as a street fight and even if it was as an adult, it isn't the rules it's the exception therefore irrelevant in the grand scheme of this "conversation".

And it's beyond funny to call someone a bítch that you wouldn't have the balls to in real life, you internet goofies are funny to me.

Well, let me clarify for the record, "since i was a kid".

Let me also clarify for the record that I will say anything to you in real life that I'm saying now. In fact, this is a more condensed, watered down version of what I'd say to you face to face.

But please, tell me, what will you do?

[IronDanHamza]

https://www.ufc.com/unified-rules-mixed-martial-arts

Here's the rules right here. Where did you get 100? Let's play semantics

I've been in almost 100 or so fights in my lifetime and the list of "UFC rules" has never happened to me

But the fact that you said Anderson Silva tells me you know what I'm talking about

You could have been in a 1000 fights it doesn't change the fact that MMA fights aren't "real" fights.