Comments Thread For: Vasiliy Lomachenko Wins Tough Decision Over a Game Jamaine Ortiz

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  • CauliflowerEars
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    #261
    Originally posted by Spartacus26
    I'm not surprised that this was a tough one. Lomanchenko has been inactive for almost a year and it showed. The ring rust was there and he had a younger, game opponent who did his best but ultimately was broken down by the more experienced Fighter.
    I always maintained that a Fighter in heading into his mid 30s in the lower class divisions NEEDS to stay active because they depend on their reflexes more so than the higher weight classes. Lomanchenko is not overrated by a Longshot as his detractors are trying their best to maintain that false narrative. He has accomplished quite a bit in all of 17 fights. Won world titles in 3 weight classes and unified the lightweight titles WBA,WBC,WBO AND RING magazine title from 2018 to 2020. And he did this against good opponents. The criticism and hate lobbed at him by his detractors are just not based in facts but rather personal biases and yes unfortunately r@ce is a part of that ingredient. It comes mostly from 2 groups. I don't have to spell it out. However in his next fight I expect him to be more efficient and less rusty. He can't afford to be only partly ready for Devin Haney. He needs to be sharper and better condition for a show down With Haney for certain.
    This here seems to be one of the more insightful comments. I reckon the former matrix Loma is still there, but we will never see it unless he fights way more frequently and develops his groove and momentum. A properly prepared and hungry Lomachenko has not too much problem with Haney, Teo, whoever, even at this age... imo.
    As far as individual criticisms, they all depend on which glasses one is looking through. Truth. The preconceived narratives around him make it difficult to hear an objective opinion.

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    • -DSG-
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      #262
      Loma struggled but will be better vs haney. I still have him winning a ud in that one.

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      • Rcralas
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        #263
        "Boxingscene is truly becoming a joke, they have jake Paul vs silva as a headline on there site, even on a night loma was boxing, what a joke, they really have a certain narrative, pushing certain fighters and ignoring others, the guy isn't even ranked or fighting ranked fighters and he is up against a guy that is easily a great grandfather, y not put up mayweather headlines he is always doing something, silva is older than floyd, I think I'm going to need a new source for boxing news because this site is only circus news"

        CBS owns this site which Is daddy of Showtime he fought in showtime

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        • Theshotyoudontsee
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          #264
          I didn't know Loma had haters. Lol. The guy fights for belts, is fun to watch and he has great skill. Respectful of other fighters. Why hate him? Kind of weird.

          Ortiz landed some decent bodyshots and a few nice headshots. Loma landed way more clean power shots and was visibly hurting Ortiz over the last half of the fight. Fast hands and flurries made Ortiz seem like he was doing more than he was. He got ****ed up in reality.
          Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 10-30-2022, 12:59 PM.

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          • Roberto Vasquez
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            #265
            Loma got useless once he went up in weight. When I saw Campbell give him a hard fight I knew the game was up

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            • Bret_Hart
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              #266
              I think Devin Haney and Stevenson beats Lomachenko

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              • angkag
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                #267
                Originally posted by Spartacus26
                I'm not surprised that this was a tough one. Lomanchenko has been inactive for almost a year and it showed. The ring rust was there and he had a younger, game opponent who did his best but ultimately was broken down by the more experienced Fighter.
                I always maintained that a Fighter in heading into his mid 30s in the lower class divisions NEEDS to stay active because they depend on their reflexes more so than the higher weight classes. Lomanchenko is not overrated by a Longshot as his detractors are trying their best to maintain that false narrative. He has accomplished quite a bit in all of 17 fights. Won world titles in 3 weight classes and unified the lightweight titles WBA,WBC,WBO AND RING magazine title from 2018 to 2020. And he did this against good opponents. The criticism and hate lobbed at him by his detractors are just not based in facts but rather personal biases and yes unfortunately r@ce is a part of that ingredient. It comes mostly from 2 groups. I don't have to spell it out. However in his next fight I expect him to be more efficient and less rusty. He can't afford to be only partly ready for Devin Haney. He needs to be sharper and better condition for a show down With Haney for certain.
                Agree. The takeaway for me here wasn't so much Loma, more Ortiz. Fighting 12 rounds for the first time is a big jump for any fighter - just ask Loma who got the pacing all wrong with Salido. Interested to see where Ortiz goes from here as he did really well even if Loma is/was rusty and especially given it was his forst outing at 12.

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                • Jsmooth9876
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                  #268
                  Loma's activity rate is low in the fights he's looked bad in recently like Teo and now this one. The minute he turns up the aggression, he starts kicking their azzes and dominating the fights. He better be the aggressive type vs Haney or he's gonna lose every round by being at the end of Haney's jab. That fight is going to suck if Loma sits back and waits half the fight to get his offense going.

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                  • Boxingfanatic75
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                    #269
                    Originally posted by The Akbar One

                    Don't kid yourself. He wasn't on the frontlines, neither was Usyk or the Klitschos. Loma and Usyk's lives would actually be in danger from their own Ukrainians if they got sent to the front as several of the Neo-**** Nationalists have openly stated. They view Usyk, and Loma as sellouts.
                    Neo **** nationalists? Lmfao. You come up with that one all on your own? Or are you hand-fed like a sheep with no independent thoughts?
                    Last edited by Boxingfanatic75; 10-31-2022, 12:45 PM.

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                    • Trey lance
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                      #270
                      Originally posted by Regge
                      with a name like Jamaine I don't see him beating any top fighter.
                      You just mad your boys keep getting exposed

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