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Originally posted by CauliflowerEars View Post
This here seems to be one of the more insightful comments. I reckon the former matrix Loma is still there, but we will never see it unless he fights way more frequently and develops his groove and momentum. A properly prepared and hungry Lomachenko has not too much problem with Haney, Teo, whoever, even at this age... imo.
As far as individual criticisms, they all depend on which glasses one is looking through. Truth. The preconceived narratives around him make it difficult to hear an objective opinion.
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Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View PostLoma's activity rate is low in the fights he's looked bad in recently like Teo and now this one. The minute he turns up the aggression, he starts kicking their azzes and dominating the fights. He better be the aggressive type vs Haney or he's gonna lose every round by being at the end of Haney's jab. That fight is going to suck if Loma sits back and waits half the fight to get his offense going.
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Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View PostI didn't know Loma had haters. Lol. The guy fights for belts, is fun to watch and he has great skill. Respectful of other fighters. Why hate him? Kind of weird.
Ortiz landed some decent bodyshots and a few nice headshots. Loma landed way more clean power shots and was visibly hurting Ortiz over the last half of the fight. Fast hands and flurries made Ortiz seem like he was doing more than he was. He got ****ed up in reality.
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Originally posted by Cyborg Fangerloo View Post1. Being a Loma fan must be tough when watching his fights. He is the opposite of Canelo in that his punches do not look like homers. Are the judges seeing how clean they are? You only could hope.
2. The clenching strategy Ortiz had was effective to remove Loma’s inside game but it ****** to watch.
3. That was the absolute best Ortiz could do and it simply was not good enough. Please never rematch.
4. They better get some really good judges if Loma fights Stevenson or Haney because those are going to be insanely difficult fights to judge based on the nuances of the fast clean shots. I imagine that clean punching is going to be what decides who wins those fights.
5. Anyone that though Ortiz won needs to go back and watch the fight in slow motion. Ortiz did not land anywhere near as many clean shots as what you think.
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Originally posted by jockpunk View Post
No, no fighter that fought salido in their second fight would be dismissed, especially when they have the amateur pedigree that loma has. Name a single fighter in the last 30 years that fought someone as tough as salido in their second fight. You sound like a casual fan who is obsessed with zeros.
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Originally posted by daggum View Post
salido was ranked three in 2011, one in 2012, and two when he fought loma in 2013. how is fighting the second ranked guy in your division a journeyman? a guy who has been a top fighter for years is a journeyman? he even moved up and became a top 3 fighter at 130 after the loma fight. why be this biased? he fought a really good fighter and lost a SD. even if he had lost to some random unranked guy, that still doesnt erase his actual accomplishments. so many people seem to love fantasy boxing where their boxers dont actually fight anyone but they keep winning to keep those fantasy points churning. id much rather have lomas career than tanks because tank has fought like 2 top 10 boxers his entire career and they were nowhere near the level of salido the journeyman while loma took a couple losses while compiling a much better resume
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Originally posted by PredatorStyle View PostThis win by Loma could age incredibly well.
Ortiz is a fighter who could end up challenging for titles at Welter, and Loma, a faded fighter and a natural Feather, managed to beat him.
Just shows you what an ALL TIME GREAT fighter truly is!
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