Most Overrated Boxers of All-Time?

[Legends456]

What are YOUR most overrated boxers of all-time, and WHY?

MOST OVERRATED

1. GGG (why: he blew through B level boxers and was hyped for his power, which was suddenly absent versus anyone with a chin / pulse. Was he avoided? Yes, he was. Was he Hagler 2.0? No, he was not).

2. Canelo (why: everyone acted for awhile like he was an ATG like the fighters of old, but if you look at his career, he had steroid use, fixed fights, and he cherry-picked the slow white boxers that he could look “fast” against. He was nothing more than a blown-up slow-ass little Mexican plodder.)

3. Deontay Wilder (why: okay, he really does have ATG power, but look at the guys he’s knocking out. They aren’t exactly the Mt. Rushmore of boxers. Fury is the only good heavyweight he fought and he couldn’t even win one fight out of the three, in spite of all his vaunted power and the cult-like sayings “all it takes is one”, “I only have to be perfect for one second”
Those who claim he could have knocked out The Greatest, Muhammad Ali, are committing the boxing equivalent of sacrelige.)

4. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (why: ok, he is an ATG counterpuncher, but look at his comp. With the exception of a brief window in his early prime, most of his opponents were slow af, plodding Mexicans, washed greats, and C level fighters like Bertro.)

5. Julio Cesar Chavez (why: people always talk about his amazing win streak — against grocery store stockers and taxi drivers!!)

…In all seriousness I’m playing this up just a tad, but I am calling out some of the names associated with the biggest fanboy cult-like ridiculousness.

Feel free to have the stage and call out your most annoying overrated boxing cults and let us know why you can’t stand them.

[Legends456]

Disclaimer: to anyone thinking I’m being a jerk, this is my way of being silly. If I sound like I’m racist against white or Mexican boxers, I’m just having a little go at my own guys (that’s my heritage). But seriously, I get annoyed af at some of these fanboys who rewrite the boxing narrative. All in good fun— thought it would make for an interesting thread.

[elfag]

mayweather has one of the greatest resumes of all time

[TheIronMike]

Ali Raymi, but only due to having minimal film. I still believe he KO's Chocolatito in 2014.

[BodyBagz]

Of ''all'' time....that list is long

My top 3
GGG -
One of the saddest PRIME resumes EVER.
This MFer has MAYBE 2 credible opponents (Nelo and Jacobs).
And he waited until Nelo was the cash cow to step up his game.
As ''old'' as he is, HE should have been the cash cow, but nooooooooooo.............

Pac -
Yeah, yeah......humble and entertaining
His claim to fame is constantly fighting post prime Mexicans and being the CW King.
As GGG did as a MW, Pac's WW resume is terrible !!!!
Prior to that, it was fist eating food vendors.

Mike T -
He's a combination of GGG and Pac.
Thrived in a dead era and melted when he stepped up (the rare times he did)
He was far from humble yet entertaining.
Smashing so many certified BUMS, ad nauseam, never made a guy so famous.
Strange how some fight fans swallowed his braggadocios attitude.
Yet hate others who are equally confident in their abilities.
His fans say ''if he never went....''
Zzzzzz

[hugh grant]

Of ''all'' time....that list is long

My top 3
GGG -
One of the saddest PRIME resumes EVER.
This MFer has MAYBE 2 credible opponents (Nelo and Jacobs).
And he waited until Nelo was the cash cow to step up his game.
As ''old'' as he is, HE should have been the cash cow, but nooooooooooo.............

Pac -
Yeah, yeah......humble and entertaining
His claim to fame is constantly fighting post prime Mexicans and being the CW King.
As GGG did as a MW, Pac's WW resume is terrible !!!!
Prior to that, it was fist eating food vendors.

Mike T -
He's a combination of GGG and Pac.
Thrived in a dead era and melted when he stepped up (the rare times he did)
He was far from humble yet entertaining.
Smashing so many certified BUMS, ad nauseam, never made a guy so famous.
Strange how some fight fans swallowed his braggadocios attitude.
Yet hate others who are equally confident in their abilities.
His fans say ''if he never went....''
Zzzzzz

If Pac is overhyoed then Floyd should be on your list also as pac is Floyd s best win

[Dubblechin]

All-time? There are too many to name. Every era has a handful, like:

* Jimmy Young (who was good for about three years out of a 20 year career, and was pretty bad for the other 17 years)
* Earnie Shavers (who failed to stop and couldn't even beat some truly awful heavyweights, yet is hailed as the best puncher ever by some)
* Harry Greb (who was not considered a great fighter in his day by those who actually watched him in the ring but is now treated by people who never saw him like every no-decision/newspaper decision he had where no official judges were present and when his hand was never raised at the end was actually a legit win)
* Donald Curry (who, if he fought in the era of De La Hoya and Trinidad, would've been Oba Carr).

The most overrated boxer currently is Oleksandr Usyk.

Evander Holyfield turned pro at light heavyweight, unified at cruiserweight and won all the recognized heavyweight titles against Buster Douglas via KO, and people back then still thought Holyfield was a “blown-up cruiserweight.”

It took Holyfield years go be recognized as a great heavyweight, arguably until he beat Mike Tyson in their first fight in 1996. That’s when you started seeing Evander high up on all-time heavyweight lists.

On the other hand, Usyk won the Olympic Heavyweight gold medal and turned pro as a heavyweight, then he moved down to campaign as a cruiserweight because Wlad Klitschko was the dominant force at heavyweight and cruiserweight would be easier.

Had the weight limit still been 190, like it was when Evander was a cruiserweight, Usyk never could've even made the weight.

Yet, Usyk spent years unifying a weak cruiserweight division. When he couldn't make 200 pounds anymore, he moved up and defeated a late-sub, semi-retired Chazz Witherspoon and struggled with Derek Chisora before, in his mid 30s, outpointing Anthony Joshua in an upset, and now hipsters act like Usyk is the second coming.

If Jae Opeatai, the current World Cruiserweight Champion, announced he was moving up and was fighting Chazz Witherspoon next, anyone would be proclaiming him the next great heavyweight?

You even have “supposed” neutral boxing ratings bodies (like Ring and the Transnational thing) lapping it up. They stripped Fury of “world” title recognition and handed it to Usyk and tried to pass off the excuse that they believed Fury was retired.

Nobody believed Fury was retired. The WBC, which loves to strip boxers of belts, didn’t even believe Fury was retired because he was in the gym training and negotiating fights the entire time.

But those hipster fanboys at Ring and elsewhere couldn’t wait to award Usyk the “World” title.

Since Usyk won his belts from Joshua, Usyk has made one defense (a decision over Joshua in the return) and Fury is about to make his third defense (Wilder 3, Whyte and Chisora 3 a little over a month from now) in the same time frame.

Anyone think Fury will struggle with Chisora like Usyk did?

It’s ridiculous. Is Usyk talented? Certainly. Do I give him credit for returning home to defend his country? I applaud him for that. It shows true character. But he’s 35. He avoided fighting at heavyweight as long as he could. The only person he’s stopped at heavyweight was a late-sub Chazz Witherspoon (and Usyk couldn’t even put him down).

I’ve no doubt Tyson Fury stops Usyk faster than Fury stopped Whyte.

Deontay Wilder - who wouldn’t have to give up 20, 40 or 50 pounds like he usually does - stops Usyk even earlier.

[QueensburyRules]

All-time? There are too many to name. Every era has a handful, like:

* Jimmy Young (who was good for about three years out of a 20 year career, and was pretty bad for the other 17 years)
* Earnie Shavers (who failed to stop and couldn't even beat some truly awful heavyweights, yet is hailed as the best puncher ever by some)
* Harry Greb (who was not considered a great fighter in his day by those who actually watched him in the ring but is now treated by people who never saw him like every no-decision/newspaper decision he had where no official judges were present and when his hand was never raised at the end was actually a legit win)
* Donald Curry (who, if he fought in the era of De La Hoya and Trinidad, would've been Oba Carr).

The most overrated boxer currently is Oleksandr Usyk.

Evander Holyfield turned pro at light heavyweight, unified at cruiserweight and won all the recognized heavyweight titles against Buster Douglas via KO, and people back then still thought Holyfield was a “blown-up cruiserweight.”

It took Holyfield years go be recognized as a great heavyweight, arguably until he beat Mike Tyson in their first fight in 1996. That’s when you started seeing Evander high up on all-time heavyweight lists.

On the other hand, Usyk won the Olympic Heavyweight gold medal and turned pro as a heavyweight, then he moved down to campaign as a cruiserweight because Wlad Klitschko was the dominant force at heavyweight and cruiserweight would be easier.

Had the weight limit still been 190, like it was when Evander was a cruiserweight, Usyk never could've even made the weight.

Yet, Usyk spent years unifying a weak cruiserweight division. When he couldn't make 200 pounds anymore, he moved up and defeated a late-sub, semi-retired Chazz Witherspoon and struggled with Derek Chisora before, in his mid 30s, outpointing Anthony Joshua in an upset, and now hipsters act like Usyk is the second coming.

If Jae Opeatai, the current World Cruiserweight Champion, announced he was moving up and was fighting Chazz Witherspoon next, anyone would be proclaiming him the next great heavyweight?

You even have “supposed” neutral boxing ratings bodies (like Ring and the Transnational thing) lapping it up. They stripped Fury of “world” title recognition and handed it to Usyk and tried to pass off the excuse that they believed Fury was retired.

Nobody believed Fury was retired. The WBC, which loves to strip boxers of belts, didn’t even believe Fury was retired because he was in the gym training and negotiating fights the entire time.

But those hipster fanboys at Ring and elsewhere couldn’t wait to award Usyk the “World” title.

Since Usyk won his belts from Joshua, Usyk has made one defense (a decision over Joshua in the return) and Fury is about to make his third defense (Wilder 3, Whyte and Chisora 3 a little over a month from now) in the same time frame.

Anyone think Fury will struggle with Chisora like Usyk did?

It’s ridiculous. Is Usyk talented? Certainly. Do I give him credit for returning home to defend his country? I applaud him for that. It shows true character. But he’s 35. He avoided fighting at heavyweight as long as he could. The only person he’s stopped at heavyweight was a late-sub Chazz Witherspoon (and Usyk couldn’t even put him down).

I’ve no doubt Tyson Fury stops Usyk faster than Fury stopped Whyte.

Deontay Wilder - who wouldn’t have to give up 20, 40 or 50 pounds like he usually does - stops Usyk even earlier.

- - Yo, Dribble Chin, U still need a bib is it?

Wlad was a superheavy gold Olympic champion turning pro in the analogous heavy division.

Usyk was a heavy gold Olympic champ turning pro in the analogous cruiser division that was heavy divison in 190lb Vander day.

Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO

Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander.

Does U even follow boxing or just regurgitate boxing for U bib?

[JAB5239]

- - Yo, Dribble Chin, U still need a bib is it?

Wlad was a superheavy gold Olympic champion turning pro in the analogous heavy division.

Usyk was a heavy gold Olympic champ turning pro in the analogous cruiser division that was heavy divison in 190lb Vander day.

Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO

Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander.

Does U even follow boxing or just regurgitate boxing for U bib?

Usyk's best win is the overrated Joshua. Holyfield beat Tyson. Tyson would have eviscerated Joshua. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it. So go ahead and stop while you're still behind. No one cares how much you try and skewer things to get ANYONE to see things through your rum soaked eyes.

[Dubblechin]

- - Yo, Dribble Chin, U still need a bib is it?

Wlad was a superheavy gold Olympic champion turning pro in the analogous heavy division.

Usyk was a heavy gold Olympic champ turning pro in the analogous cruiser division that was heavy divison in 190lb Vander day.

Vander 190+ Hvy record 26-10-2, 13 KO

Usyk equivalent 200+ Hvy record 26-0, 16 KO who has fought an average heavier, taller opponents than Vander.

Does U even follow boxing or just regurgitate boxing for U bib?

Deontay Wilder fought in the same division as Usyk in the amateurs. They would've faced each other in the semifinals of the 2008 Olympics if Usyk hadn't lost in the Quarterfinals.

The difference is Wilder turned pro as a heavyweight like Frazier, Foreman, Tate, Rademacher, Johansson, Mercer, Golota, Tua, Izon, Ibragimov, Nicholson and basically EVERYONE who fights at heavyweight in the Olympics does. (Holyfield and Leon Spinks fought at light heavys in the Olympics. So did Ali. Hell, Floyd Patterson, Michael Spinks and Chris Byrd were Olympic middleweights.)

Except Usyk started at heavyweight and decided Cruiserweight would be easier than fighting bigger guys. Wilder turned pro as a heavyweight. (Hell, Usyk was 10 pounds heavier than Wilder in their last fights.)

That was Usyk's call. But don't act like being the Heavyweight Gold Medalist and deciding to fight at Cruiser instead of heavyweight as a pro wasn't the easier route.

Usyk hasn't exactly been dominant when he's had to give up 20, 30 or 40 pounds to opponents, even the ordinary ones.