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Can someone please tell me how much money does Bud Crawford need and want man? Please will any of his fans answer and explain this one question away for me? No other fighter has had a problem with an Al Haymon PBC contract before Terence Crawford.Therefore, he is the clear and obvious reason why this fight is not happening?
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Which other fighters are you talking about? Yeah I'm sure guys like Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter have no problem taking Al Haymon's PBC contract, as they're fighters advised by Al Haymon who were already signed to the PBC before fighting Spence. Ugas kinda lucked into his fight but I'm pretty sure it's the same for him.
Crawford isn't a PBC signed guy, he wasn't built by Haymon. He's universally regarded as among the 10 best fighters in the world and it's in no way thanks to any opportunities provided by the PBC or Al Haymon. He brings his own value to whatever match he signs.
The better question is why do you think a top 3 pound for pound guy should be paid the same as Danny Garcia for what most fans consider to be the biggest match in boxing?Comment
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Outside of boxing fans hardly anyone has ever heard or even knows Terence 'Bud' Crawford. He is not a mainstream crossover star like Mayweather, Pacquiao or Canelo was.
Even his own former promoter Bob Arum has said that he could have purchased a brand new house from the ground in Beverly Hills off the money he has lost on all of Bud Crawford's fights.
I have an even better question for you. Why haven't Matchroom and Golden Boy reached out to sign Terence Crawford if you think that a top 3 pound for pound guy shouldn't be paid the same as Danny Garcia for what most fans consider to be the biggest match in boxing?Last edited by champion4ever; 10-22-2022, 08:59 PM.Comment
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Where you sit in P4P ratings has nothing to do with your ability to generate sales, as far as promoters are concerned they do things based on a fighters money making history.
You do realise it's about your ability to sell at the box office dont you, without that you have nothing, have a look at the money Butterbean was generating as a 3 round fighter, had nothing to do with rankings or ability just sales.Comment
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Crawford ducked and negotiated a fight with a lower level fighter with no belt on a bogus network with no undercard instead of fighting for undisputed after sitting out for a year. If this so called PPV card is truly even a thing, if they pay Crawford 10 million, how do they pay the rest of the card and the bills for the venue without a legitimate draw? A duck is what it is, and a clear one at that. Spence has only discussed and called out Bud from the end of his last championship fight until the backdoor moves of Crawford. I hope Spence never gives him a second chance, and fights Thurman or Boots then moves up. But, all of these Bud fans defending the shady ducking without trying to make sense of the alternative route he chose. I understand, it doesn't need to make sense. I admire your blind loyalty...no I don't.Last edited by Rebelrbg; 10-22-2022, 10:12 PM.Comment
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Its not about the money its the way he did it, why cant people see it was a BS back door deal, he was lying to his fans while he was doing it, he could have easily done this in an honourable way.
I guarantee the same people siding with TC would have crucified Errol if he did this, its bs when fans cant be objective to both sides, they don't care what they do, just as Arum once said fans are like dumb rocks that roll anyway your push them.Comment
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Outside of boxing fans hardly anyone has heard of any active boxer right now outside of maybe Canelo, and maybe AJ if you're British. So I'm not sure what your point is there. It's not like Errol Spence is a crossover mainstream star either.
Bob Arum's situation with Crawford was trying to promote a star fighter in a division where most of the credible opposition was signed to a rival organization with competing TV network deals. I'm not surprised those fights weren't marquee gangbusters at the gate. Crawford was a key part of ESPN's aligning with Top Rank and helped push their ESPN+ service when it was getting started, they obviously saw value in him as a TV friendly fighter.
I have no idea whether or not Matchroom or Golden Boy have reached out to Crawford for any deal, or why they have or haven't. I would imagine both promotional en****** would still face the same fundamental problem that Top Rank did - most of the notable opposition in Crawford's weight class is locked into a rival promotional company with TV network deals in direct competition with DAZN's service, so they would have the same struggles in finding attractive fights for him.
In any event if Terence Crawford isn't well-known or valuable to the sport of boxing then we wouldn't be posting about him, so I'm not sure what your overall point in this post is.Comment
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This is absolutely wrong. Anything in boxing that you can claim about yourself makes you more marketable in any event, because it is one more element that makes the event notable and worth attending.
The fact that Terence is among the best in the world is what makes this fight not only marketable, but arguably the match in boxing with the biggest buzz behind it. The fact that two of the sport's top 10 fighters, both undefeated and in the same weight class, makes this fight immensely more interesting (and therefore marketable) than any other matchup in the weight class, maybe in any weight class.
You can't have it both ways here, where Spence vs Crawford is simultaneously the biggest fight in boxing but also nobody cares about it and it won't sell tickets.Comment
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With Crawford it's always been about the money and he's the one in there taking the punchs so who are we to judge. He's stated numerous times he couldn't care less about his public appeal or fan adoration which is a slap in the face to us fans i ageee,but that's his prerogative.
Theres nothing dishonorable imo about entertaining multiple offers. It's no different than us going to multiple job interviews and weighing the pros and cons of what has been offered. PBC appears to be struggling financially and could only offer a percentage of no gaurantee while that BLK entity,whomever tf they are,swooped in guaranteeing Crawford an 8figure payday. PBC dropped the ball as Crawford went with the bird in hand. It ****in blows but can't fault him.Comment
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