Comments Thread For: Crawford: Spence Didn't Want The Fight As Bad As I Did; I Agreed To All Of Their Bull****

[Roadblock]

With Crawford it's always been about the money and he's the one in there taking the punchs so who are we to judge. He's stated numerous times he couldn't care less about his public appeal or fan adoration which is a slap in the face to us fans i ageee,but that's his prerogative.

Theres nothing dishonorable imo about entertaining multiple offers. It's no different than us going to multiple job interviews and weighing the pros and cons of what has been offered. PBC appears to be struggling financially and could only offer a percentage of no gaurantee while that BLK entity,whomever tf they are,swooped in guaranteeing Crawford an 8figure payday. PBC dropped the ball as Crawford went with the bird in hand. It ****in blows but can't fault him.

He could have said in this order, Im not happy how negotiation have gone Im withdrawing and then announce another fight.

Nobody would slap him for that, my beef is he was telling fans one thing and from the other side of his mouth he was signing another contract, I don't blame him for looking for money that's not the issue, all Im saying is he could have treated his fans, boxing, and Errol in a lot more respectable way than he did.

[4truth]

He could have said in this order, Im not happy how negotiation have gone Im withdrawing and then announce another fight.

Nobody would slap him for that, my beef is he was telling fans one thing and from the other side of his mouth he was signing another contract, I don't blame him for looking for money that's not the issue, all Im saying is he could have treated his fans, boxing, and Errol in a lot more respectable way than he did.

What part do you not understand? A 35 year old fighter says he is going to fight this year. He starts negotiating with PBC in June for a fight with Spence. It’s well into October now, at what point is enough enough?

[Roadblock]

What part do you not understand? A 35 year old fighter says he is going to fight this year. He starts negotiating with PBC in June for a fight with Spence. It’s well into October now, at what point is enough enough?

The bit I don't understand is making deals behind closed doors while telling fans a load of hogwash, he didn't have to do things in the way he did them is that so hard for you see?

You side with your favourite guy no matter what, I guarantee if Errol done the same backdoor move you would be calling Errol and PBc everything under the sun, and the difference with me and you is I would have slammed Errol the same as Im slamming TC, you have no honour so its easy to be a blind follower for you, honour is a big thing with me.

Actually read the post you quote, read and comprehend exactly what was said.

[Sctrojan]

He could have said in this order, Im not happy how negotiation have gone Im withdrawing and then announce another fight.

Nobody would slap him for that, my beef is he was telling fans one thing and from the other side of his mouth he was signing another contract, I don't blame him for looking for money that's not the issue, all Im saying is he could have treated his fans, boxing, and Errol in a lot more respectable way than he did.

I agree,he could've went back to PBC/Haymon and said "look,I've been offered a gaurantee,match it or kick rocks"....but at the same time you should never show your hands. The issue here too is we don't know what Spence's side of the deal entailed either and we"ll probably never know. Regardless,PBC only offered a percentage which obviously comes with some risk.

Let me ask you this,if PBC had stepped to the plate with an 8figure gaurantee,or just some reasonable gaurantee for that matter, do you think that would've got the fight done? I do....

[Roadblock]

I agree,he could've went back to PBC/Haymon and said "look,I've been offered a gaurantee,match it or kick rocks"....but at the same time you should never show your hands. The issue here too is we don't know what Spence's side of the deal entailed either and we"ll probably never know. Regardless,PBC only offered a percentage which obviously comes with some risk.

Let me ask you this,if PBC had stepped to the plate with an 8figure gaurantee,or just some reasonable gaurantee for that matter, do you think that would've got the fight done? I do....

Man right now Im not sure if would have been done, we just don't know the whole story, from TC himself saying its the only fight he wants and everything was agreed on, if it was about money why come out and say he agreed on terms, then TC said he wanted transparency and goes and does this which is real shady, nothing is making sense it appears like TC was stringing everyone along, I don't know that's just the feeling I get from how it all ended.

[Sctrojan]

Man right now Im not sure if would have been done, we just don't know the whole story, from TC himself saying its the only fight he wants and everything was agreed on, if it was about money why come out and say he agreed on terms, then TC said he wanted transparency and goes and does this which is real shady, nothing is making sense it appears like TC was stringing everyone along, I don't know that's just the feeling I get from how it all ended.

You're exactly right,we"ll never know the whole story but the little tidbits we've been given are PBC only offered a percentage of a gamble and this BLK entity offered an 8figure gaurantee.No need to rack our brains over details were not privy to when it's clear he chose what anyone with sense wouldve,the gaurantee.

[Roadblock]

You're exactly right,we"ll never know the whole story but the little tidbits we've been given are PBC only offered a percentage of a gamble and this BLK entity offered an 8figure gaurantee.No need to rack our brains over details were not privy to when it's clear he chose what anyone with sense wouldve,the gaurantee.

True, who knows the percentage with Spence could have ended up a lot more than what he is getting for DA, I think Spence TC would have done a million PPV.

[The Ninth Layer]

Man right now Im not sure if would have been done, we just don't know the whole story, from TC himself saying its the only fight he wants and everything was agreed on, if it was about money why come out and say he agreed on terms, then TC said he wanted transparency and goes and does this which is real shady, nothing is making sense it appears like TC was stringing everyone along, I don't know that's just the feeling I get from how it all ended.

Idk from my standpoint as a sideline observer to their negotiations, I was excited to hear the nov 19 date in september but was surprised at how little lead up time they were gonna go for. If they were targeting november they should have announced like early august. When Canelo-GGG 3 came and went with no announcement it was pretty clear to me november was gonna be very unlikely. Big fights sometimes happen in december but super fights rarely do, and no big fights happen until at least the super bowl is over.

If I knew by mid september that the fight was super unlikely for this year then certainly Crawford did too, he would know there was a window to make a fight happen this year without really impacting the time frame for any Spence match. Like I heard they were targeting February but what's the difference if it ends up being March instead. And Crawford's a free agent who hasn't signed anything so why not stay busy in the meantime.

Idk why people are treating this like it's some deception on Crawford's part. He doesn't owe Haymon or Spence anything until contracts are signed. And if he doesn't like the contracts they're sending him, he's not obligated to sit around and wait for a more appealing one to show up.

[Roadblock]

Idk from my standpoint as a sideline observer to their negotiations, I was excited to hear the nov 19 date in september but was surprised at how little lead up time they were gonna go for. If they were targeting november they should have announced like early august. When Canelo-GGG 3 came and went with no announcement it was pretty clear to me november was gonna be very unlikely. Big fights sometimes happen in december but super fights rarely do, and no big fights happen until at least the super bowl is over.

If I knew by mid september that the fight was super unlikely for this year then certainly Crawford did too, he would know there was a window to make a fight happen this year without really impacting the time frame for any Spence match. Like I heard they were targeting February but what's the difference if it ends up being March instead. And Crawford's a free agent who hasn't signed anything so why not stay busy in the meantime.

Idk why people are treating this like it's some deception on Crawford's part. He doesn't owe Haymon or Spence anything until contracts are signed. And if he doesn't like the contracts they're sending him, he's not obligated to sit around and wait for a more appealing one to show up.

The deception was to the fans, as far as Spence goes you don't have to owe somebody something to do the respectable thing, and what difference does a mth or so make in the big picture, as I said there was a big chance the percentage offer would reap TC a lot more than he gets now with a massive career legacy win, and then he might never get that shot at all the belts again, weigh it all up.

[The Ninth Layer]

The deception was to the fans, as far as Spence goes you don't have to owe somebody something to do the respectable thing, and what difference does a mth or so make in the big picture, as I said there was a big chance the percentage offer would reap TC a lot more than he gets now with a massive career legacy win, and then he might never get that shot at all the belts again, weigh it all up.

Idk as a fan I don't feel deceived. It was really disappointing to get that november 19 date floated and then not materialize but like I said it was kinda obvious by August, and then really obvious in September that the fight wasn't happening this year. It makes sense to me that if Crawford-Spence isn't happening then at least Bud gets some kind of fight in. DA is an okay opponent that can potentially give him a challenge but probably won't put the big fight at risk.

I would feel betrayed if at any point we got an official announcement the fight was happening. What we actually got was a rumor the terms were more or less settled, but without an official announcement it was just a rumor.