Comments Thread For: Crawford: Spence Didn't Want The Fight As Bad As I Did; I Agreed To All Of Their Bull****

[JOITATS]

seems like both guys were being PRIMA DONNAS and were complaining about the same thing

which makes me believe neither guy really wanted this fight unless it was perfectly catered to their needs
(which will never happen)

[champion4ever]

A GAURANTEED 8 figure purse vs just a percentage probably would've got the fight done since you know......

Well that's not going to happen because it's not how Al operates. Nor is Terence Crawford a pay-per-view draw. Hell, even Errol Spence, Jr who is the A-Side won't be receiving a guaranteed eight figure purse?

However, If that's indeed the truth and his bottom line then simply put; He must really want to put the PBC out of business because where the Hell they are going to find that type of money from?

Al doesn't have the backing of ESPN like Bob Arum. Nor does he have the backing of DAZN like Eddie Hearn. Those two promoters have real deep pockets; Unlike Al Haymon.

All this leads me to believe that Crawford never wanted the Spence fight in the first place. He doesn't care about us boxing fans. All he cares about his lining his pockets with a retirement package and a career high payday.

Which is why he is pricing himself out because he knows Spence is going to tax that ass.

[champion4ever]

Its not about the money its the way he did it, why cant people see it was a BS back door deal, he was lying to his fans while he was doing it, he could have easily done this in an honourable way.

I guarantee the same people siding with TC would have crucified Errol if he did this, its bs when fans cant be objective to both sides, they don't care what they do, just as Arum once said fans are like dumb rocks that roll anyway your push them.

Bingo! You hit the hammer on the head. Team Crawford had been negotiating in bad faith from the start. They were holding private talks, meetings and negotiations with a third party all the while sitting down at the bargaining table with Al Haymon discussing a potential Errol Spence fight.

Without so much as disclosing this information to him until the last minute. They were undermining, double dealing and being deceptive; Which tells me that these people can never be trusted and were never serious or interested in an Erroll Spence fight to begin with.

It was a clear duck by Terence Crawford. Also, you are right. Had Errol Spence done this, then this entire site would have shut down from all the irate Ternce Crawford fans posting their opinions on how big of a liar and coward that Errol Spence, Jr was.

[vital1983]

My feeling is that Crawford threw a spanner in the works.

[Roadblock]

Idk as a fan I don't feel deceived. It was really disappointing to get that november 19 date floated and then not materialize but like I said it was kinda obvious by August, and then really obvious in September that the fight wasn't happening this year. It makes sense to me that if Crawford-Spence isn't happening then at least Bud gets some kind of fight in. DA is an okay opponent that can potentially give him a challenge but probably won't put the big fight at risk.

I would feel betrayed if at any point we got an official announcement the fight was happening. What we actually got was a rumor the terms were more or less settled, but without an official announcement it was just a rumor.

It wasn't a rumour it was officially said from both camps, terms have been agreed on and now the lawyers are sealing it, that was no youtube rumour but the official inside people said it.

[Roadblock]

Bingo! You hit the hammer on the head. Team Crawford had been negotiating in bad faith from the start. They were holding private talks, meetings and negotiations with a third party all the while sitting down at the bargaining table with Al Haymon discussing a potential Errol Spence fight.

Without so much as disclosing this information to him until the last minute. They were undermining, double dealing and being deceptive; Which tells me that these people can never be trusted and were never serious or interested in an Erroll Spence fight to begin with.

It was a clear duck by Terence Crawford. Also, you are right. Had Errol Spence done this, then this entire site would have shut down from all the irate Ternce Crawford fans posting their opinions on how big of a liar and coward that Errol Spence, Jr was.

Honestly, it stands out like dog balls to me, and Im a fan of both I've never said a thing bad about either guy, I don't care who did this Id be on them, it just happened to be TC.

[champion4ever]

Honestly, it stands out like dog balls to me, and Im a fan of both I've never said a thing bad about either guy, I don't care who did this Id be on them, it just happened to be TC.

You are right. This is all on Bud Crawford. He knows full well that there is no way that the PBC could reach his unreasonable demands; Which is why he is pricing himself out of the fight because he never wanted it to begin with.

His fans are in denial but you are an unbiased boxing fan which I can admire. You've shown yourself to be a man of great honour and integrity. Unlike, most boxing fans who choose sides whether their favorite fighter is right or wrong.

If they did have the ability to be fair and impartial then I guess they wouldn't be a much of a boxing fan now wouldn't they?

[Sctrojan]

Well that's not going to happen because it's not how Al operates. Nor is Terence Crawford a pay-per-view draw. Hell, even Errol Spence, Jr who is the A-Side won't be receiving a guaranteed eight figure purse?

However, If that's indeed the truth and his bottom line then simply put; He must really want to put the PBC out of business because where the Hell they are going to find that type of money from?

Al doesn't have the backing of ESPN like Bob Arum. Nor does he have the backing of DAZN like Eddie Hearn. Those two promoters have real deep pockets; Unlike Al Haymon.

All this leads me to believe that Crawford never wanted the Spence fight in the first place. He doesn't care about us boxing fans. All he cares about his lining his pockets with a retirement package and a career high payday.

Which is why he is pricing himself out because he knows Spence is going to tax that ass.

So because Al Haymon and his PBC venture is failing as a business,Bud has to treat them as a charity and leave money on the table?? PBC
GAURANTEED Canelo $40mil for Spence and GAURANTEED another $40mil for Mall/David,that's $80mil....you're telling me they couldn't somehow come correct and offer Bud 1/8 of that,or atleast some gauranteed money and afford Spence to become undisputed?? Bottom line....BLK got the job done while PBC didn't.

[champion4ever]

So because Al Haymon and his PBC venture is failing as a business,Bud has to treat them as a charity and leave money on the table?? PBC
GAURANTEED Canelo $40mil for Spence and GAURANTEED another $40mil for Mall/David,that's $80mil....you're telling me they couldn't somehow come correct and offer Bud 1/8 of that,or atleast some gauranteed money and afford Spence to become undisputed?? Bottom line....BLK got the job done while PBC didn't.

Well that's their loss. Besides, Showtime's Championship Boxing through its parent company CBS was willing to put up the money to give Canelo to fight those names you've mentioned because he is a pay per view draw who can put enough meat in the seats and attract new fans to their platform.

So what about Crawford? He is a liability. Therefore, the PBC doesn't need him. Signing to overpay Terence for his services is too risky of a proposition. He doesn't put enough meat in the seats, he won't attract any new fans to their platform and he may very well force the company to go into bankruptcy.

They would take a huge L paying Crawford even an eighth of what they paid Canelo because it would leave their company in limbo. There are no guarantees that they would even so much as break even on the fight's expenses. If the PBC guarantees Crawford at least $10M then they would have to guarantee Spence at least $15M.

Remember, that one gets into the fight game to make money not lose money. If Crawford really wants this fight with Spence then he must be willing take shorts or there will be no fight at all.

[Sctrojan]

Well that's their loss. Besides, Showtime's Championship Boxing through its parent company CBS was willing to put up the money to give Canelo to fight those names you've mentioned because he is a pay per view draw who can put enough meat in the seats and attract new fans to their platform.

So what about Crawford? He is a liability. Therefore, the PBC doesn't need him. Signing to overpay Terence for his services is too risky of a proposition. He doesn't put enough meat in the seats, he won't attract any new fans to their platform and he may very well force the company to go into bankruptcy.

They would take a huge L paying Crawford even an eighth of what they paid Canelo because it would leave their company in limbo. There are no guarantees that they would even so much as break even on the fight's expenses. If the PBC guarantees Crawford at least $10M then they would have to guarantee Spence at least $15M.

Remember, that one gets into the fight game to make money not lose money. If Crawford really wants this fight with Spence then he must be willing take shorts or there will be no fight at all.

So you're saying PBC isn't competent enough to promote the biggest welterweight fight in a decade to garner atleast 400K buys at minimum?? The fight by itself does 300k easily and with proper promotion,PBC should be capable of pushing it to 500K which would satisfy everyone involved.

PBC came at Bud with an offer that has his take home based off of fuchin hotdog sales ffs.