Comments Thread For: Fury-Chisora Trilogy Clash Confirmed For Dec. 3 At Tottenham Hotspur Stadium

[IronDanHamza]

All you have to do is look at who they beat to show why they were world class.

Why would you need to be top 5 in the division? If a division is stacked with ATG's, you wouldn't give credit to those who beat them if they were outside of the top 5? Really?

Well, the Super Middleweight division is historically one of the weakest ever. Especially that specific era. So, there's even more reason for him to have fought more than two fighters ranked in the Top 5. 20+ Title defences, 2 of which were in the Top 5. You consider that great? It's actually objectively not great.

That resume is not good, to consider it great is absurd. Which of those fighters do you actually consider elite?

[Kannabis Kid]

Then you'll have no problem telling me what page and post number it was where i supposedly do this.

Just go look lmao it's there to be seen, just like you wrote that you like loose men.

[Sid-Knee]

Well, the Super Middleweight division is historically one of the weakest ever. Especially that specific era. So, there's even more reason for him to have fought more than two fighters ranked in the Top 5. 20+ Title defences, 2 of which were in the Top 5. You consider that great? It's actually objectively not great.

That resume is not good, to consider it great is absurd. Which of those fighters do you actually consider elite?

There have been many divisions that were weaker than SuperMiddle. Hell, every division now is much weaker than back then. When you list all the names of the world class fighters there, there's a lot more. It was the case for divisions back then too. I'd happily go through the divisions of the time and compare. But i've seen how low your opinion is of Calzaghe so it's probably a waste of my time. But hey, why not.

I've listed the good world class fighters or better.

It depends on how you define "Elite". Being top 5 doesn't do it for many reasons. Was Crawford elite when unifying the Lightweight division even though it was trash?

You didn't answer my question about being outside of the top 5 should a division have a top 10 of ATG's. Would you not rate the win if it was against say, number 6 or 7 even though they were top draw compared to a top 5 in an empty division of non world class fighters?

[Sid-Knee]

Just go look lmao it's there to be seen, just like you wrote that you like loose men.

Then you'll have no problem telling me what page and post number it was where i supposedly do this.

[IronDanHamza]

There have been many divisions that were weaker than SuperMiddle. Hell, every division now is much weaker than back then. When you list all the names of the world class fighters there, there's a lot more. It was the case for divisions back then too. I'd happily go through the divisions of the time and compare. But i've seen how low your opinion is of Calzaghe so it's probably a waste of my time. But hey, why not.

I've listed the good world class fighters or better.

It depends on how you define "Elite". Being top 5 doesn't do it for many reasons. Was Crawford elite when unifying the Lightweight division even though it was trash?

You didn't answer my question about being outside of the top 5 should a division have a top 10 of ATG's. Would you not rate the win if it was against say, number 6 or 7 even though they were top draw compared to a top 5 in an empty division of non world class fighters?

Historically, Super Middleweight is one of the weakest divisions in the history of the sport. That is just factual. Calzaghe's era in particular being one of the weakest.

How can you honestly say with a straight face that most of those fighters were world class? Barely any of them were and all but 3 were ranked outside the Top 5 in the division. Again, facts.

I can barely understand what your question is. First off, that division was total garbage at the time, so that would classify as an "empty division".

Secondly, most of the guys ranked in the Top 5 during that time weren't "top draw" let alone the ones outside of it, the one's that Calzaghe fought. Even then he didn't beat all that many even in that category.

His resume is garbage. To consider it "great" is pure comedy.

[BodyBagz]

2 questions -
1) Who here went to see or paid for Fury vs Whyte
2) How many of you regret it

Whoever pays to see Fury vs 12L 3 will be paying for shyte.

[Kannabis Kid]

Then you'll have no problem telling me what page and post number it was where i supposedly do this.

I have no problem with you going and finding it for yourself. It's there to be seen.

[Sid-Knee]

Historically, Super Middleweight is one of the weakest divisions in the history of the sport. That is just factual. Calzaghe's era in particular being one of the weakest.

How can you honestly say with a straight face that most of those fighters were world class? Barely any of them were and all but 3 were ranked outside the Top 5 in the division. Again, facts.

I can barely understand what your question is. First off, that division was total garbage at the time, so that would classify as an "empty division".

Secondly, most of the guys ranked in the Top 5 during that time weren't "top draw" let alone the ones outside of it, the one's that Calzaghe fought. Even then he didn't beat all that many even in that category.

His resume is garbage. To consider it "great" is pure comedy.

I'm asking, if there were a division with the top 10 being all certified great fighters, would you disagree with those outside of the top 5? It's pretty simple.

You beat a world class fighter, you're world class.

Shieka beat Johnson.
Woodhall beat Catley, Malinga, Nardiello and Branco.
Mitchell beat Green, Liles and Siaca x2.
Bika beat Dirrell and Soliman.
Reid beat Ottke, Vasquez, Cherifi, Nardiello and Wharton. He beat Malinga too but got stiffed on the cards.

However, you'd say these weren't world class fighters? Do you have to be an ATG for the win to be credible then?

[IronDanHamza]

I'm asking, if there were a division with the top 10 being all certified great fighters, would you disagree with those outside of the top 5? It's pretty simple.

You beat a world class fighter, you're world class.

Shieka beat Johnson.
Woodhall beat Catley, Malinga, Nardiello and Branco.
Mitchell beat Green, Liles and Siaca x2.
Bika beat Dirrell and Soliman.
Reid beat Ottke, Vasquez, Cherifi, Nardiello and Wharton. He beat Malinga too but got stiffed on the cards.

However, you'd say these weren't world class fighters? Do you have to be an ATG for the win to be credible then?

What's this? Some Danny Green "If you beat a legend you become a legend" nonsense?

None of the above are elite fighters. Fact. Especially at the times Calzaghe fought them.

Your first question is irrelevant because that era of the Super Middleweight division was garbage.

Also side note, did you really just list Woodhall's "win" over Glen Catley?

[Sid-Knee]

What's this? Some Danny Green "If you beat a legend you become a legend" nonsense?

None of the above are elite fighters. Fact. Especially at the times Calzaghe fought them.

Your first question is irrelevant because that era of the Super Middleweight division was garbage.

Also side note, did you really just list Woodhall's "win" over Glen Catley?

What are you talking about? They were all in their prime when Joe fought them. So you don't think they're world class in any way? Wow.

Do i really have to ask you the question again? If the top 10 of a division had all ATG's in it, would you consider those outside of the top 5 as not being so?