Comments Thread For: Fury-Chisora Trilogy Clash Confirmed For Dec. 3 At Tottenham Hotspur Stadium

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Because why would I answer some dumb, irrelevant question? I've answered it now for arguments sake. Did you have a point or were you just asking for the sake of it? What was your point?

Yes all 3 of those are elite fighters obviously. Is there a point to that question or are you just in the business of asking random questions?

I mean exactly what I said. They were NOT elite fighters, not then, not before, not after. Quite simple, where abouts are you lost on it?

Spence has only beaten Ugas and got a gift in his fight against Porter. But he's elite? No, he's not. He's just a good fighter. Those fighters i named have better resumes. They've proven more. Crawford has two credible wins in Postal and Porter. Canelo has two credible wins in Jacobs and Saunders. I don't give him his robberies or when he sabotages fighters before he'll go against them. They don't count. But yeah, most of the fighters i named have proven more than these two as well. The only one who hasn't is Sheika. And even then, it's arguable.

How can you argue against what you said when you claimed they weren't elite when Joe took them on? That is clearly stating they are past their best at that time. Therefore, you clearly don't know what you're writing.

Calzaghe's win over Hopkins is pretty much better than all their careers combined. What Hopkins did AFTER the defeat to Joe is much better than what they did. Then you add in the likes of Kessler, Lacy and Eubank, then yes, it's a great resume. But if you think it's just good, you must think their resumes stink to high heaven.

[IronDanHamza]

Spence has only beaten Ugas and got a gift in his fight against Porter. But he's elite? No, he's not. He's just a good fighter. Those fighters i named have better resumes. They've proven more. Crawford has two credible wins in Postal and Porter. Canelo has two credible wins in Jacobs and Saunders. I don't give him his robberies or when he sabotages fighters before he'll go against them. They don't count. But yeah, most of the fighters i named have proven more than these two as well. The only one who hasn't is Sheika. And even then, it's arguable.

How can you argue against what you said when you claimed they weren't elite when Joe took them on? That is clearly stating they are past their best at that time. Therefore, you clearly don't know what you're writing.

Calzaghe's win over Hopkins is pretty much better than all their careers combined. What Hopkins did AFTER the defeat to Joe is much better than what they did. Then you add in the likes of Kessler, Lacy and Eubank, then yes, it's a great resume. But if you think it's just good, you must think their resumes stink to high heaven.

Oh yeah, Canelo, Spence and Crawford, 3 of the top 5 P4P fighters in the whole world aren't elite...

But Richie Woodhall, Robin Reid and Omar Sheika are

Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this site. What a hilarious take, cong****.

Calzaghe's resume is garbage mate, simple as that.

He beat 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5, fact.

He beat 1 fighter ranked in the Top 10 P4P list, fact.

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Oh yeah, Canelo, Spence and Crawford, 3 of the top 5 P4P fighters in the whole world aren't elite...

But Richie Woodhall, Robin Reid and Omar Sheika are

Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this site. What a hilarious take, cong****.

Calzaghe's resume is garbage mate, simple as that.

He beat 3 fighters ranked in the Top 5, fact.

He beat 1 fighter ranked in the Top 10 P4P list, fact.

Hey, guess what, they're not top 3 P4P. Anyone who considers that to be true is an idiot.

None of them have their resumes. That's a fact if you're a reasonable person. Reid's "Win" over Ottke alone is better than each of their full resume. To suggest it isn't is also laughable.

Name a single win any of them have that is better than the Johnson win? Johnson has wins over Jones, Tarver and Woods. Sorry, but you're ridiculous.

The P4P list is based on opinion, not fact. Then when you look at who does the P4P list and how biased they are, it becomes even more laughable. The Americans use it as promotion to hype their guys when they're not deserving of being anywhere near a top 10 list.

You're considering "Sexy" names over those who are a lot more proven. If you're new to the sport, you could be forgiven for coming up with that thought process. But not after being around a couple of years or more. If it's much longer, then that's your fault for being dim and not understanding how things work. Claiming a great resume is nothing but good, but thinking their resumes are fine, is the joke here.

[IronDanHamza]

Hey, guess what, they're not top 3 P4P. Anyone who considers that to be true is an idiot.

None of them have their resumes. That's a fact if you're a reasonable person. Reid's "Win" over Ottke alone is better than each of their full resume. To suggest it isn't is also laughable.

Name a single win any of them have that is better than the Johnson win? Johnson has wins over Jones, Tarver and Woods. Sorry, but you're ridiculous.

The P4P list is based on opinion, not fact. Then when you look at who does the P4P list and how biased they are, it becomes even more laughable. The Americans use it as promotion to hype their guys when they're not deserving of being anywhere near a top 10 list.

You're considering "Sexy" names over those who are a lot more proven. If you're new to the sport, you could be forgiven for coming up with that thought process. But not after being around a couple of years or more. If it's much longer, then that's your fault for being dim and not understanding how things work. Claiming a great resume is nothing but good, but thinking their resumes are fine, is the joke here.

I didn't say Top 3 P4P. Read, son!

They're 3 of the Top 5 P4P fighters in the world currently that is a literal universally considered fact.

The fact you are actually trying to argue that the likes of Robin Reid and Richie Woodhall are evenly remotely close to their level is absolutely, laughably absurd.

Canelo doesn't have the resume of Robin Reid? What an absolute zinger.

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I didn't say Top 3 P4P. Read, son!

They're 3 of the Top 5 P4P fighters in the world currently that is a literal universally considered fact.

The fact you are actually trying to argue that the likes of Robin Reid and Richie Woodhall are evenly remotely close to their level is absolutely, laughably absurd.

Canelo doesn't have the resume of Robin Reid? What an absolute zinger.

I meant to put 5. They're not though. Spence wouldn't appear in my top 10. Crawford would be right near the bottom, if at all. Canelo is down the list too.

You think an opinion on a fantasy ranking in a sport that isn't watched by many all over the world, is according to you, "Literal universally fact"? And you think i don't laugh at you? My god this has to be a standout when it comes to ******ity. Surely you feel at least a bit of embarrassment writing this? Hopefully anyway. Damn.

What is their level? List the world class wins of all of them where they actually won the fight and didn't have circumstances play a major part? Their resumes are thin. Really thin.

[IronDanHamza]

I meant to put 5. They're not though. Spence wouldn't appear in my top 10. Crawford would be right near the bottom, if at all. Canelo is down the list too.

You think an opinion on a fantasy ranking in a sport that isn't watched by many all over the world, is according to you, "Literal universally fact"? And you think i don't laugh at you? My god this has to be a standout when it comes to ******ity. Surely you feel at least a bit of embarrassment writing this? Hopefully anyway. Damn.

What is their level? List the world class wins of all of them where they actually won the fight and didn't have circumstances play a major part? Their resumes are thin. Really thin.

You're talking about thin resumes and then listing Richie Woodhall and Robin Reid as fighters who are elite in comparison to them

Why don't you make a poll and ask who's elite, Spence and Crawford or Woodhall and Reid? Have a wild guess what the outcome might be.

Yes, they are universally considered amongst the Top 5 P4P fighters in the sport by EVERY SINGLE boxing media that there is. That is a fact.

Woodhall and Reid would never, ever, ever be considered any where near a P4P list ever.

For you to even compare them as fighters is just astounding really.

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You're talking about thin resumes and then listing Richie Woodhall and Robin Reid as fighters who are elite in comparison to them

Why don't you make a poll and ask who's elite, Spence and Crawford or Woodhall and Reid? Have a wild guess what the outcome might be.

Yes, they are universally considered amongst the Top 5 P4P fighters in the sport by EVERY SINGLE boxing media that there is. That is a fact.

Woodhall and Reid would never, ever, ever be considered any where near a P4P list ever.

For you to even compare them as fighters is just astounding really.

List their resumes. What is so hard about that? List those that are not robberies or had circumstances attached to them. Then we'll compare. Is this going to have to be the long way round again where you take about 10 posts until we get there?

Make a poll on this cesspit of a site? Yeah, they're a beacon of truth and integrity. Haha. You'd get more honesty and sense out of *****.

The Media outside of the US has their own independent list? Or is it them just showing the American one?

[IronDanHamza]

List their resumes. What is so hard about that? List those that are not robberies or had circumstances attached to them. Then we'll compare. Is this going to have to be the long way round again where you take about 10 posts until we get there?

Make a poll on this cesspit of a site? Yeah, they're a beacon of truth and integrity. Haha. You'd get more honesty and sense out of *****.

The Media outside of the US has their own independent list? Or is it them just showing the American one?

Oh you mean like Glen Catley that you included on Richie Woodhall's great resume?

List them for what? I'm not doing anything because you asked me. It's you that's making the ridiculous assertion that Richie Woodhall and Robin Reid are higher caliber fighters than Canelo, Spence and Crawford If you want to compare them as fighters then go and make a thread about it.

ANY Boxing media list mate, ANY. All have those 3 as Top 5-10 P4P fighters in the world. That's a literal fact.

The great Woodhall and Reid ever being close to a P4P list is non existent. The idea of either of them ever being included on a P4P list at any point in their careers is laughable.

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Oh you mean like Glen Catley that you included on Richie Woodhall's great resume?

List them for what? I'm not doing anything because you asked me. It's you that's making the ridiculous assertion that Richie Woodhall and Robin Reid are higher caliber fighters than Canelo, Spence and Crawford If you want to compare them as fighters then go and make a thread about it.

ANY Boxing media list mate, ANY. All have those 3 as Top 5-10 P4P fighters in the world. That's a literal fact.

The great Woodhall and Reid ever being close to a P4P list is non existent. The idea of either of them ever being included on a P4P list at any point in their careers is laughable.

Then remove Catley. Quite simple. It's still better.

List them and justify them having better resumes. Look, i'll help you out here..

Spence: Ugas.

Crawford: Porter and Postal.

Canelo: Jacobs and Saunders.

These are the only world class fighters these fighters fought and won against without circumstances or robberies. If you think there are more, tell me who they are and let's discuss. Thinking i'm telling you what to do comes across as seriously insecure. I'm not asking for pictures in the nude FFS. This is a forum where you debate. Well, it's supposed to be anyway. Not many people are actually capable of justifying their comments.

P4P isn't fact. The list they give factually exists. But that's as far as it goes when it comes to P4P. Most people even acknowledge it as nothing but mere opinion and promotion for certain fighters. It has zero integrity. None. It's childish to come up with what you did. In all seriousness, you should be embarrassed.

Competition was much greater back then. Then you add in the fact how hard it is for those outside of the US to get on there even though they have a vastly superior resume to most on it. You should know by now how it operates over there. If you don't by now, you never will. This site is a clear indication of the deranged bias and extremism.