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  • Kannabis Kid
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    #71
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee

    Arreola will never be champion either. He won't be a real contendere or world class like Chisora was.

    The David Haye that he fought straight after? He pussied out? Your fantasies and delusion do need to be looking into.

    You do know people pulled Chisora away don't you?
    Did I ever say he would? Chisora world class with 12 losses lmao yeah right. Yeah the cruiserweight who knocked him senseless.

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      #72
      Originally posted by daggum

      calzaghe's resume is terrible. a good win over kessler, a robbery over hopkins, and a bunch of bums. about as good as kambosos' resume
      This is the one area we have problems with Dag. Everything else is rational and good. But here, it gets crazy. Why?

      We both know Calzaghe beat Hopkins. It was a stinkfest yeah, because Hopkins does that to try and make an opponent he isn't confident in beating look as bad as possible in the hope in makes him look good. It didn't work. He lost.

      Calzaghe also has a strong list of world class wins. To say it's on the same level of Kambosos is madness. He has Teo and that's it.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Rosco3387

        I would have to look at the post... I agree this fight stinks. I am just happy for Chisora. I mean we cannot blame Chisora right?
        Chisora is good with me. From his point of view, he's taking on the champion. But from Fury's point... It's horrible.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee

          Chisora is good with me. From his point of view, he's taking on the champion. But from Fury's point... It's horrible.
          Of course you would say that haha you are ok with someone who quit on their stool in their 2nd fight getting a rematch lmao.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
            Did I ever say he would? Chisora world class with 12 losses lmao yeah right. Yeah the cruiserweight who knocked him senseless.
            You should check out fighters who have those kind of losses against the very best throughout history and see if you think they're bums as well.

            Haye wasn't a Cruiserweight. He moved up you cabbage long ago.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
              Of course you would say that haha you are ok with someone who quit on their stool in their 2nd fight getting a rematch lmao.
              Are you saying the competition is weak from his point of view? He should be fighting someone much better?

              Donkey.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                You should check out fighters who have those kind of losses against the very best throughout history and see if you think they're bums as well.

                Haye wasn't a Cruiserweight. He moved up you cabbage long ago.
                Haha probably some British bums that you are hyping up. So Haye was never a cruiserweight champion?

                Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                Are you saying the competition is weak from his point of view? He should be fighting someone much better?

                Donkey.
                I just said Chisora quit on his stool, it's there to be seen.
                Last edited by Kannabis Kid; 10-21-2022, 06:55 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
                  Haha probably some British bums that you are hyping up. So Haye was never a cruiserweight champion?

                  I just said Chisora quit on his stool, it's there to be seen.
                  No, American and Mexican fighters. Don't you know enough about history to know their resumes?

                  Haye used to be a Cruiserweight champion but then couldn't make the weight any more so moved up to become a Heavyweight champion. Wasn't Paquiao fighting at 106 lbs before moving up and slapping your naturally heavier fighters about all the time? What was it like watching the much smaller Manny do that to all your fighters? Are they an embarrassment too? Are they bums?

                  Are all your Mexican's and American's bums for quitting too?

                  I haven't given you the huge list i have of all your fighters quitting have i? I'm saving it for a rainy day. You're really going to love the size of it. It's hilarious.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                    This is the one area we have problems with Dag. Everything else is rational and good. But here, it gets crazy. Why?

                    We both know Calzaghe beat Hopkins. It was a stinkfest yeah, because Hopkins does that to try and make an opponent he isn't confident in beating look as bad as possible in the hope in makes him look good. It didn't work. He lost.

                    Calzaghe also has a strong list of world class wins. To say it's on the same level of Kambosos is madness. He has Teo and that's it.
                    i dont see how thats crazy at all. hopkins landed almost all the clean punches and you even admit hopkins made calzaghe look bad and the reason calzaghe looked bad is because he couldnt hit hopkins cleanly and was running into punches. yeah it was boring but hopkins had the punches and calzaghe didnt. its the opposite of a fight like floyd pac where floyd made it boring but it was pac who was landing almost all the clean punches. whether its boring or not does not matter. only the punches matter.

                    no one else on calzaghe's resume is very notable besides kessler and kessler was easily passed up by froch and ward right after calzaghe moved up/retired so that win didnt age super well. the other guys in his division never did much besides ottke who calzaghe never fought. someone like eubank was way past it, coming off multiple losses, and unranked to count as a quality win. i mean calzaghe looks a lot better now that guys like tank davis are the face of boxing and he wont even fight anyone with a pulse
                    Last edited by daggum; 10-21-2022, 07:51 PM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      i dont see how thats crazy at all. hopkins landed almost all the clean punches and you even admit hopkins made calzaghe look bad and the reason calzaghe looked bad is because he couldnt hit hopkins cleanly and was running into punches. yeah it was boring but hopkins had the punches and calzaghe didnt. its the opposite of a fight like floyd pac where floyd made it boring but it was pac who was landing almost all the clean punches. whether its boring or not does not matter. only the punches matter.

                      no one else on calzaghe's resume is very notable besides kessler and kessler was easily passed up by froch and ward right after calzaghe moved up/retired so that win didnt age super well. the other guys in his division never did much besides ottke who calzaghe never fought. someone like eubank was way past it, coming off multiple losses, and unranked to count as a quality win. i mean calzaghe looks a lot better now that guys like tank davis are the face of boxing and he wont even fight anyone with a pulse
                      Paquiao didn't beat Floyd either. 8-4 Floyd. Floyd ducked like a coward for years and made sure he got Manny in that condition and i wanted him to win. But he didn't, man.

                      Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever has. I was talking about the fight not being visually appealing. Hopkins made sure it wasn't with all his clinching and games. But i had Calzaghe taking it by 2 points. He won. A win is a win. It's the quality of opposition where the credit lies, not whether it was a good fight or not.

                      Eubank had 2 losses in his whole career and was 31, not 51. It was a great win. Especially when you consider how green Calzaghe was going in with all that experience Eubank had.

                      Kessler
                      Lacy
                      Sheika
                      Woodhall
                      Bika
                      Jones
                      Veit x2
                      Mitchell
                      Brewer
                      Reid
                      Hopkins

                      Sorry, but that's a great resume. And this is after Joe was ducked for years. Ottke had the chance to fight Joe, but he wanted nothing to do with it. Calzaghe was willing to go to Germany for it. Ottke and his team wanted nothing to do with it. They came right out and said they weren't interested in it. Hopkins and Jones turned down the fight years beforehand. But you should already know about this. That isn't Joe's fault. He even offered Pavlik a shot. He wasn't interested either.

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