Where are the Young Guns at Heavyweight?

[juggernaut666]

Yeah didn’t Wlad spark out Wilder in sparring once? Like bad enough to give him neurological spasms and stuff? I thought I read an article about that some time back, quoting people who were there.

I heard Ali Bashir say it in interviews over the years ,he said Wilder was told to go home after being helped up . That was the real Manny Steward protege .

[Legends456]

I heard Ali Bashir say it in interviews over the years ,he said Wilder was told to go home after being helped up . That was the real Manny Steward protege .

How do you feel about SugarHill claiming the mantle of Manny? I know he’s his nephew and all, but find it a bit of a stretch personally. That said, he seems like a decent trainer and he seems to have picked up a decent amount of his uncle’s wisdom.

[LG Motel 22]

Justis Huni is pretty decent, will be a force if/when he gets some sting to his shots. Only 23. From Australia.

[RazorDog]

I made a conscious decision to follow prospect Richard Torrez jr on social media after he nearly decapitated his last opponent.

[anonymous2.0]

Bakhodir Jalolov in a few years might be a contender, he just needs to sit down on his punches more. He's a big lad and actually beat Richard Torres jr in the ams so that sets up a future pro fight between the two.

[Good ol' Douglas]

We’ve had Joshua, Fury, and Wilder as the main players at HW for years now. Usyk, the relative newcomer, is also in his mid thirties.

Even the supposed “prospects” like Joyce, Hrgović, Zhang, Yoka, etc. are not young anymore, either.

I’ve heard names like Anderson and Jalalolov mentioned, but nothing beyond that.

I’d go so far as to wager the only heavyweight currently who could compete in any of the past eras is Fury — and I didn’t say dominate all comers, but compete.

Wilder would shine in some eras, but prime Mike Tyson lights him up, Joe Louis sparks him, and the Greatest, Muhammad Ali, simply embarrasses him.

Usyk would probably be a titleholder in some weaker eras, but I don’t see him beating the Klitschkos, or Lewis, or Louis, or Tyson.

I have doubts he can beat Wilder and Fury.

And like I said, there simply are no terrifying heavyweight prospects coming up and threatening Fury and Wilder (like an Ennis or an Ortiz to Spence and Crawford at welterweight).

Are we just in a painfully bad drought at heavyweight, with no new blood coming down the pipe?

Thoughts?

Boxing is the only sport that peaked 50 years ago according to hipsters

Yeah, stiff and slow 200 lbs Louis who regularly fought blown-up LHWs would "spark" Wilder. Actually hilarious.

[Legends456]

Boxing is the only sport that peaked 50 years ago according to hipsters

Yeah, stiff and slow 200 lbs Louis who regularly fought blown-up LHWs would "spark" Wilder. Actually hilarious.

Well, I have to disagree with you there. Louis was like a heavyweight Beterbiev with the technical acumen of Lennox Lewis. And Wilder at his best weight, would have only outweighed him by ten or so pounds. Louis had comparable, if not equal, power to Wilder, and not just in his straight rights, either. Wilder is quick but doesn’t have good stamina. Louis would break his rhythm and land a brutal chopping combo on him. If Fury (great as he is, he’s not exactly a power puncher) knocked out Wilder cold (as he did for a few seconds at the end of the trilogy bout), then I really don’t see him getting up from Louis’ best shot.

[juggernaut666]

How do you feel about SugarHill claiming the mantle of Manny? I know he’s his nephew and all, but find it a bit of a stretch personally. That said, he seems like a decent trainer and he seems to have picked up a decent amount of his uncle’s wisdom.

He has a right to he was also involved but Bashir was put in charge of fighters and stayed at his side the entire time , Sugar Hill is much younger and probably less then half the knowledge of Bashir who’s been training guys for decades .

Steward did not teach Hill he observed what Manny was doing in periods , Manny actually taught Bashir hands on and had him co training guys . Bashir was much more like Manny which is why Klitschko chose Banks to be the head guy because he didn’t want another trainer calling the shots so Banks was his yes man . This led to the fall out and Bashir left the scene . But no doubt he’s the real deal protege not Sugar Hill . He was still trying to be a boxer himself when Bashir still had actual credentials under Manny .

It’s night and day , Bashir would eat him up in a one on one contest who could tell you more about bixing and training methods .

[adotd]

Jeamie TKV. Not had many pro fights, isn't body beautiful, but has buckets of talent, he just needs to learn the craft and not rush.

[Quercusalba]

I made a conscious decision to follow prospect Richard Torrez jr on social media after he nearly decapitated his last opponent.

Yeah, that was a scary KO.