Where are the Young Guns at Heavyweight?

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  • sicko
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    #11
    as far as current Pros DDD, Anderson is as good as you're going to get, also ****** Gadzhimagomedov been following him in the Amateurs. Bakhodir Jalolov is already 28 so not really young BUT a rising Contender with Big Power. Richard Torrez is solid BUT not sure about his height in this ERA

    In the Amateurs Delicious Orie (25) from the UK stands out currently very Marketable, also the currently Number 1 Amateur Super Heavy who recently turned pro Lazizbek Mullojonov (23), nice scrap between the two here from last year



    I think both can have success as Pros

    Nothing on this side for the American coming out of the Amateurs at Heavy but I am following a kid out of Houston Joshua Edwards is 22 a very SLICK Heavyweight, doesn't look that tall though but some nice Skills and moves very well for a Amateur Super Heavyweight

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      #12
      Originally posted by The D3vil

      Emanuel Steward did.

      He specifically said 10 years ago, they'd be the two guys to rule the division
      Yeah that’s a great interview. Manny knew the division so well.

      The vast majority of the public didn’t see much in either of them though.

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      • TheIronMike
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        #13
        Originally posted by sicko
        as far as current Pros DDD, Anderson is as good as you're going to get, also ****** Gadzhimagomedov been following him in the Amateurs. Bakhodir Jalolov is already 28 so not really young BUT a rising Contender with Big Power. Richard Torrez is solid BUT not sure about his height in this ERA

        In the Amateurs Delicious Orie (25) from the UK stands out currently very Marketable, also the currently Number 1 Amateur Super Heavy who recently turned pro Lazizbek Mullojonov (23), nice scrap between the two here from last year



        I think both can have success as Pros

        Nothing on this side for the American coming out of the Amateurs at Heavy but I am following a kid out of Houston Joshua Edwards is 22 a very SLICK Heavyweight, doesn't look that tall though but some nice Skills and moves very well for a Amateur Super Heavyweight
        Torrez Jr is listed at 6'2, not sure if that is exaggerated but it should be able to get him to the top 10 at least . He has marketability, hopefully they match him right and keep him active

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        • LA_2_Vegas
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          #14
          That Big Gurg guy that fought on Saturday looked decent to me - Coffie was fat as hell though and looked like a different guy than when he debuted, and was a late starter. So Coffie was a punching bag, but Gurg got to show off some quality combination punching for a big HW.

          Not a lot coming back at him after round 2, he got hit with a couple but he rolled with some shots too, pretty good feel and vision I thought. He's not fleet footed but he took angles.

          Not sure I buy he was 6'7", but that's what they said. 24 yrs old. I'm guessing he prob spars Frank Sanchez, Arreola and others with Goosen. I'd give him a shot at Sanchez right now.
          Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; 10-19-2022, 04:42 PM.

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          • Rosco3387
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            #15
            Originally posted by Legends456
            We’ve had Joshua, Fury, and Wilder as the main players at HW for years now. Usyk, the relative newcomer, is also in his mid thirties.

            Even the supposed “prospects” like Joyce, Hrgović, Zhang, Yoka, etc. are not young anymore, either.

            I’ve heard names like Anderson and Jalalolov mentioned, but nothing beyond that.

            I’d go so far as to wager the only heavyweight currently who could compete in any of the past eras is Fury — and I didn’t say dominate all comers, but compete.

            Wilder would shine in some eras, but prime Mike Tyson lights him up, Joe Louis sparks him, and the Greatest, Muhammad Ali, simply embarrasses him.

            Usyk would probably be a titleholder in some weaker eras, but I don’t see him beating the Klitschkos, or Lewis, or Louis, or Tyson.

            I have doubts he can beat Wilder and Fury.

            And like I said, there simply are no terrifying heavyweight prospects coming up and threatening Fury and Wilder (like an Ennis or an Ortiz to Spence and Crawford at welterweight).

            Are we just in a painfully bad drought at heavyweight, with no new blood coming down the pipe?

            Thoughts?
            The blood is there, just not fighting. Great comments I agree

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            • Rosco3387
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              #16
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              There’s virtually limitless guys coming up in terms as it’s never been with both young and older fighters sharing the spot light . Why do you guys keep saying no one’s around ? Lol
              Prolly because the distinction between "not around" and "Not fighting each other" escapes them. We really need a tournament, or some venue to pair these guys off... But its true, a lot of talented guys coming up... Just need a way to have them generate an income fighting.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Rosco3387

                Prolly because the distinction between "not around" and "Not fighting each other" escapes them. We really need a tournament, or some venue to pair these guys off... But its true, a lot of talented guys coming up... Just need a way to have them generate an income fighting.
                I used to have a heavyweight thread a year or two ago . I kind of got bored with the trolls and would probably have to do another one anyway ? Or list some here so the OP can deal with them and baby sit , I can see most are still around .

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                • Quiksilva
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                  #18
                  They are in different sports, such as the NFL and NBA... American "young" guns that is.

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                  • juggernaut666
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    Yeah that’s a great interview. Manny knew the division so well.

                    The vast majority of the public didn’t see much in either of them though.
                    Manny didn’t know the division would be so weak and Klitchko would have been around much longer like Vitali retirement . He could see Wilders opponents for several years because he was around the prospects like Fury and Jennings who he considered a top future contender when he was alive . Not really that hard to predict Fury vs Wilder would eventually happen when he can foresee years ahead being around Klitchko who sparred all the top guys coming up besides Fury .

                    To bad he wasn’t around to watch Wlad batter Wilder in sparring though I think his prediction would not be the same . If Fury had more confidence in himself we would have also got a great rematch at some point but Joshua stepped up and signed to fight Klitchko instead in 2016 . Lol

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                    • Legends456
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      Manny didn’t know the division would be so weak and Klitchko would have been around much longer like Vitali retirement . He could see Wilders opponents for several years because he was around the prospects like Fury and Jennings who he considered a top future contender when he was alive . Not really that hard to predict Fury vs Wilder would eventually happen when he can foresee years ahead being around Klitchko who sparred all the top guys coming up besides Fury .

                      To bad he wasn’t around to watch Wlad batter Wilder in sparring though I think his prediction would not be the same . If Fury had more confidence in himself we would have also got a great rematch at some point but Joshua stepped up and signed to fight Klitchko instead in 2016 . Lol
                      Yeah didn’t Wlad spark out Wilder in sparring once? Like bad enough to give him neurological spasms and stuff? I thought I read an article about that some time back, quoting people who were there.

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