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Both clinching and "inside" fighting are part of the sport but let's not confuse one for the other. What Haney has made a habit of ,jab>clinch is not "inside fighting" at all,it's actually the complete opposite. It's a tactic used to nullify the opponent from actually attempting to fight on the inside. It's effective but there's no sugarcoating that it makes for boring,less than fan friendly fights period.
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I don’t get all the hate for Haney.Comment
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Never said I liked and I'm most certainly not defending it, in fact I was critical of his 1,2 Fall In And Grab. Haney doesn't has a Inside Game at all he holds on and stare over at the ref to come and break now that is BS
that being said, I still say his opponents need to do something about it themselves instead of waiting for the ref to break Tuck those arms and make him pay for Clinching with nasty body shots
Loma, Tank, Shakur won't allow thatLast edited by sicko; 10-17-2022, 01:20 PM.Comment
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again the argument is for the OPPONENTS to take matter into their own hands and make Haney pay for his clinches it is not to defend his clinches. People want the Ref to take Points and DQ which is not likely...actually I think Refs instead should stay back and tell them to fight out and not break for them so if you want to grab then you have to fight out of it
Loma won't allow that he will spin out and push Haney off and go to the body, same with TankComment
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...yet that is why fighters Clinch even more, knowing that the Ref is going to come step in, break and save them from having to fight inside
Chances of Ref Deducting a point for Clinching or DQ are very very slim
a few Low Blows and Dirty Breaks would be a nice way to deal with a Clincher, you have to get rough with them instead of again wanting the Ref to do somethingLast edited by sicko; 10-17-2022, 03:18 PM.Comment
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To be fair, the way Kambosos was fighting forced the clinch to happen. He'd come charging in like a bull, uncontrolled. That's what happens when you have three months to change your fighting style. It looked like he was practicing how to fight Haney rather than fighting Haney, if that makes sense. If you come barreling in as Kambosos did, you have to clinch. That aside, Haney was up to his old tactics. I'm going to make a gif to show how Haney practices slipping and grabbing. Like I had said before, I've never seen someone slip and hug when they can slip and throw a punch. It's ****ing weird as hell.Comment
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I know what you're saying and you're not wrong, but in that scenario the guy who low blows or fights dirty is likely to be the one who gets warned or points deducted. There needs to be a change in boxing where refs start coming down hard on clinching and holding. It's the most calculated and egregious of fouls because it has the potential to completely sway the dynamic of a fight all under the ref's nose without any serious repercussions.
A low blow grabs your immediate attention, but strategic clinching is steady, consistent cheating that flies under the radar and is actually far more significant in the long run. Klitschko/Povetkin and Khan/Collazo are both glaring examples of this.
If one guy is a great inside fighter and the other a great outside fighter, the outside fighter is going to win more often than not in this day and age because they can just tie up when close and completely negate any possibility of inside fighting. For this reason inside fighting is becoming a lost art in modern boxing, which is a real shame.Comment
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