Comments Thread For: Welcome Back, Deontay. But You're Still Not a Hall of Famer

[Willow The Wisp]

So you're saying Wilder is better than Wlad and a better finisher? He has the style advantage over Wlad? Why, what does Wilder do better than Wlad?

For one thing, Wilder blows away or repeatedly knocks down everyone he's ever faced, and DOESN'T get blown away or outboxed by fringe contenders ala Holyfield, Tyson, Lennox, Wladimir and Joshua. Just the facts. As for the 2015 -2025 era? Easily the best since the 1970's. But bigger by 3-4" and 30 lbs.

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder hasn't beaten a single world class fighter in his life and couldn't get a mass of bums out of there in 1 round. But he's getting a very good world class fighter out of there that quickly even though he has all the advantages in speed and skill?

Crazy.

Lol....are you serious? Wilder's total wins points are best of his era. Whatever your definition of world class is, it implies that you don't follow the game very closely. All of Wilders opponents over the past 8 years were top 5% of active heavyweights. Every one of them. Look that up yourself using the tools available to us all. And form better opinions. Not much to ask. No offense.

[Willow The Wisp]

The point didn't. But my question did.

What does Wilder do better than Wlad? It's a simple question as you seem to think he'd get Haye out of there in 1 round when Wlad couldn't. You also seem to think Wilder would get his only world class opponent out of there when bums were lasting late into the fight. It's illogical and senseless.

Not knocking Haye. Good fighter, nice fellow. But while Haye was demonstrativly chinny, Wilder is no less than one of the 4 hardest hitting human beings who ever lived, and he hit the mark against every man he ever fought. That's a daunting formula for the Hayemaker.

[Willow The Wisp]

AJ accepted all terms but Fury never had any intention of fighting him. Fury was hoping AJ would turn the fight down after two defeats so Fury could pump his chest out and slander him. But it backfired. he accepted everything. Now all Fury had to do was come up with ****** "Deadlines" to shut down what he never wanted in the first place. Fury is a b1tch and a pathological liar who has a serious insecurity towards AJ. he never shuts up about him. Why do you think he's constantly on his mind in EVERT interview?

That doesn't even include the offer that Fury turned down when he came back to have a couple of fights then AJ. But Fury said he wasn't ready for Dillian and AJ. But then 3 weeks later took on Wilder. Fury knew Wilder was a chump from the start. Then came the other time before the third Wilder fight where he knew he wasn't fighting AJ from the start. But again they thought they could pretend in the hope of AJ turning it down so he could do what he's always done. Slander him and use his name like a bitter stalker. But they gave him the crazt 50/50 split he didn't come close to deserving. So now he was cornered again. Did you not notice the difference in Arum and Warren before the 50/50 offer as opposed to after it? Completely different. A complete U turn. They were all for it beforehand. Then telling Eddie to slow down when it was in full swing with Eddie delivering the fight as promised.

Wake up. You really can't be this dim. Or are you?

Enjoy Fury's typical fight with a Chisora no one asked for. I wonder who he'll fight next. Haha.

Eddie Hearn will probably never let the gifted but fragile Joshua anywhere near a power house like Deontay Wilder, at least not until he is certain that he's gotten the last bit of earning power out of his fighter. Wilder is the the absolute perfect WRONG style matchup for Joshua, whose string of losses has by now relegated him to the 4th or 5th best heavyweight of his era. Which given the strength of this era is nothing to sneeze at. Wilder has faults and flaws? They all do if they're made of flesh & bone. The thing about Deontay Wilder is that he's got the great equalizer, and he will need just one shot to put Joshua sound asleep for a ten count-plus. This is a fact not lost on Eddie Hearn, who was telling anyone who was listening that Helenius was going to win last week.

[ELPacman]

AJ accepted all terms but Fury never had any intention of fighting him. Fury was hoping AJ would turn the fight down after two defeats so Fury could pump his chest out and slander him. But it backfired. he accepted everything. Now all Fury had to do was come up with ****** "Deadlines" to shut down what he never wanted in the first place. Fury is a b1tch and a pathological liar who has a serious insecurity towards AJ. he never shuts up about him. Why do you think he's constantly on his mind in EVERT interview?

That doesn't even include the offer that Fury turned down when he came back to have a couple of fights then AJ. But Fury said he wasn't ready for Dillian and AJ. But then 3 weeks later took on Wilder. Fury knew Wilder was a chump from the start. Then came the other time before the third Wilder fight where he knew he wasn't fighting AJ from the start. But again they thought they could pretend in the hope of AJ turning it down so he could do what he's always done. Slander him and use his name like a bitter stalker. But they gave him the crazt 50/50 split he didn't come close to deserving. So now he was cornered again. Did you not notice the difference in Arum and Warren before the 50/50 offer as opposed to after it? Completely different. A complete U turn. They were all for it beforehand. Then telling Eddie to slow down when it was in full swing with Eddie delivering the fight as promised.

Wake up. You really can't be this dim. Or are you?

Enjoy Fury's typical fight with a Chisora no one asked for. I wonder who he'll fight next. Haha.

Do you honestly think Fury is scared of AJ? The dude has been handled thoroughly by smaller opponents with no where near the reach Fury has.

If I had to bet my house, Wilder is not scared of AJ, Wilder is not scared of Fury. Fury is not scared of Wilder, Fury is not scared of AJ. AJ is scared of Wilder, AJ is scared of Fury. Period. Losing to either opponent would have reduced his stock tremendously when it was at an all time high.

At this point, AJ should just go for it. He's got nothing to lose. Nobody considers him great anymore or that he's as magical as it appeared in the past. The Ruiz thrashing really took away his invincibility. On that note, Wilder has nothing to lose either at this point. The difference is, Wilder will make a fight with anyone, AJ is still highly picky.

[SugarAnt05]

Parker
Povetkin
Whyte
Ruiz
Pulev
Chisora
Hunter
Takam

Then you have fighters like Joyce, Hrgovic, Bakole and the likes around today. But Wilder instead fights the chumps no one asked for. His career is filled with them.

youve partially proved my point as the list is hella weak. Most of those guys are similar or worse than the guys already on Wilders resume. We also cant ignore the “cold war” between promoters that was going on way before Wilder became popular. The good fighters you mentioned were already tied up with fighrs against other champs .

[TheIronMike]

If you believe that Mike Tyson should be in the HOF, then you should believe that Wilder belongs because I can't think of any big name he beat other than maybe Spinks♂️

YOU ARE MENTALLY CHALLENGED. YOU ARE AN IMBICILE. YOUR IQ LIKELY RATES BELOW ROOM TEMPERATURE STANDARDS.

I recommend a deep dive into 80's HW history.

[Sid-Knee]

Those guys have each suffered losses to fighters nowhere near as good as Wilder.

I don't care about your fallacies. Wilder ducked the whole division. He fought tomato cans across the board. But you and the other weirdo's who support Wilder are on your own. Wilder and his team don't feel the same. If they did, they would look to get as much credibility as possible by taking on the best the division had to offer. They knew they never had the capabilities to win these fights. You know, by the fact they ducked them all. Wilder is a narcissist. He wants as much credit as he can get. But his cowardice wouldn't even allow him to attempt it.

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder would destroy Frank Bruno, LOL!

Don't be ******. What, because Bruno lost to the likes of Lewis and Tyson who are ATG's? Haha.

Bruno would get rid of the bum in no more than a couple of rounds. His lack of defence wouldn't keep the bombs of Bruno from wreaking his head. Fury destroyed him with his light punches. Could you imagine what the power of Bruno would do? One punch and it's over. Bruno has the much greater skills and timing.

[Sid-Knee]

He's a future Hall of Famer.

- Very famous trilogy against Tyson Fury
- WBC champ for years.
- had like 10 title defenses
- The legendary right hand.

that's enough to put him in there. Especially when you think about some of the people already in there.

So no world class victories the way it's supposed to be?

He was a title holder who made sure the top fighters couldn't get close to him through the corruption of Haymon and the WBC colluding together. He was no champion. Champions beat world class fighters. Champion of what world? Cowardice and fraud?

He didn't have 10 defences. He had 7 as he lost to Fury but got the gift draw.

Who of worth has that right hand beaten? Tell me? Nobody. It isn't legendary. You don't know the meaning of the word.